City v Sunderland Post Match Discussion Thread

[Drewmanc]

Today was the first time I genuinely thought we played shit. The back 4 bar Kolarov, who had, in my opinion, his best game for us. The midfield was completely devoid of ideas, de Jong slowed play far too much, yaya looked tired, silva is a shadow of himself and, to be fair, Milner had a decent game till put at right back. As has been said before Pizzaro should have come on sooner and AJ should not be near the starting eleven and only brought on till about 75mins in, I think he will be moved on in the summer. Upfront Dzeko and Balo had a shocking game, besides winning a penalty Dzeko did sweet FA and Balo was almost none existent, I do still believe he has some talent, the second goal proves that, but his alround game is gash and he doesn't make intelligent runs into channels ala Kun. It's time for a real kick up the arse in training and for some of the players to take a long hard look at what winning a title would mean to them and us.

Having now calmed down we need to back Mancini and this team, we can still do it. It's not over till it's over........

 

[Comrade Buka]

Feel sorry for Mancini. We know from the training threads he spends time on breaking forward with speed. Its clear that the players arnt listening to him. In fact its his tactical changes when things are going wrong that is getting us through this awful patch.

It looks like the players dont want to play for him

I disagree. I just think they arn't talented enough to carry out his plan. I mean some of the ball control today particularly from our Mr. Wonderful was sunday park stuff.

Just fucking wow.

 

[mammutly]

One more point- the rags struggled against a poor Fulham side on Monday and were lucky in the end. All games are more difficult and unprecictable at this stage of the season. QPR beat Arsenal today. Do you think there are calls for wholesale sackings at the swamp and The Emirates?

The difference, I suspect, is that they've been here before.

 

[Barcon]

Well, he has ditched plenty already, hasn't he? and how many of them are playing out of their skin for other managers?
To name a few:-
Bellamy
Adebayor
Petrov (Look up today's report; he does this all the time)
Bridge - Is he really worse than Kolarov?
Ireland - who is starting to come good for Villa

My point is that Mancini has proved often enough, now, that he cannot get the best out of his players, just the opposite in fact. His pattern, in England, is to buy top players at high prices then gradually ruin them.

O'Neill on the other hand...

Are you joking pal ? Every single one of those players you mention are fucking shite. Have you watched any of them play, as opposed to reading reports on them?

No : I'm not joking (pal). Ade has been first choice forward on Spurs team-sheet all season and has done bloody well. Their form as a team has dropped recently and we have to look at the uncertainty about their manager's future to find the reason for that. They were chasing us for the title before that. Remember?
Bellamy, although he has to be rotated because of previous injuries, has been a revelation for Liverpool. (At least to his detractors) Did you not see the quality of his winning Cup-tie goal against us, or don't you watch the game?

Petrov has been an ever-present for Bolton ever since he left us, playing against the same teams as we do and he's been quality all the way. Exceptional today.
He is obviously not as quick as he was, but still takes up dangerous positions, crosses as well as ever and scores goals. Who do we have who's better, playing wide?

Ireland, after a long time out with injuries, is finally getting a regular game at Villa and gets better every week. He's still young enough to get back to his best.

Now watch Bridge do his stuff under O'Neill.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're not still at school, but you do sound as if you are.

I won't waste my time (or yours) explaining why I think all those players are shit, I just do (and so do many other people). Yes I do watch games (and probably have been doing for a lot longer than you have). Not for one second have I thought that spurs would challenge us for the title either. Just because you go to the trouble of explaining your thoughts doesn't make them any more valid. Now, you want to start being condescending and insulting? I can do that too.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

It looks like the players dont want to play for him

I disagree. I just think they arn't talented enough to carry out his plan. I mean some of the ball control today particularly from our Mr. Wonderful was sunday park stuff.

Just fucking wow.

Wow what?

 

[decmancity]

Overall it was a poor performance until the last 10. Something which is good enough when you do your job properly.

We didn't today which was the biggest shame. The basics failed some players and then the gulf in class flickered for the last push and it brought 2 goals.

Balotelli will get slated whatever but he did well today, worked hard and scored a fantastic goal and a pen. Showed the bad Mario when he threw a fit over the freekick but at least he showed some heart and drive? as Kolarov's fk bar one were poor today.

Kolarov consistently delivered but no one gambled to get their head on it and alot of them were cleared. Defended as he usually does ie not fantastically so i am not even going to put that as a flaw anymore because he won't get any better. Should have started v Stoke and Clichy should have played today.

Pizarro was on for 10mins? and in that time he picked the ball up and sprayed the ball about causing S'Land alot of problems. Should have been on earlier.

The above 3 were the best players today imo.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

One more point- the rags struggled against a poor Fulham side on Monday and were lucky in the end. All games are more difficult and unprecictable at this stage of the season. QPR beat Arsenal today. Do you think there are calls for wholesale sackings at the swamp and The Emirates?

The difference, I suspect, is that they've been here before.

And so have the managers.

 

[carlosthejackal]

Overall it was a poor performance until the last 10. Something which is good enough when you do your job properly.

We didn't today which was the biggest shame. The basics failed some players and then the gulf in class flickered for the last push and it brought 2 goals.

Balotelli will get slated whatever but he did well today, worked hard and scored a fantastic goal and a pen. Showed the bad Mario when he threw a fit over the freekick but at least he showed some heart and drive? as Kolarov's fk bar one were poor today.

Kolarov consistently delivered but no one gambled to get their head on it and alot of them were cleared. Defended as he usually does ie not fantastically so i am not even going to put that as a flaw anymore because he won't get any better. Should have started v Stoke and Clichy should have played today.

Pizarro was on for 10mins? and in that time he picked the ball up and sprayed the ball about causing S'Land alot of problems. Should have been on earlier.

The above 3 were the best players today imo.

He has already been slated by his manager for todays performance

 

[jonmcity]

Fed up, had a beer or three. They don't want to play for some reason unknown to me.
lack luster all over the pitch. Could not keep the ball, make easy passes. Not sue what has happened but its probably cost us the title today.

 

[remoh]

The best manager is Ferguson.

Nope.

Mourinho is easily the best.

Ferguson is the greatest manager of all time.

Only if great management includes being a cheat. Cloughie would spit in his eye; he hated cheats.