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City Vs AjaxPost Game Discussion Thread
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bluemc1
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foetus said:bluemc1 said:foetus said:The point is we would've won if the ref had made the right calls. Yes we defended the corners poorly but the ref is paid to make the right calls. He had one job and he failed miserably.
but is it not also the point we would of won if we had defended properly ? surely one is not more relevant than the other
Yes we probably would have. BUT that doesnt change the fact the ref made some very poor decisions. It doesnt matter if you let 2 goals in if you then go ahead and score 3 (which we did). The ref cost us the game....not the defending.
yes it does matter if you let in 2 goals cos then you have got to score 3, if we hadnt let in 2 we wouldnt of needed ref to give pen in the last second to get a win
David Silvaremoh said:taconinja said:You do get that De Rossi is a DM, yes? He also happens to be an excellent passer. So your solution is to install Stephen Ireland as our DM?remoh said:Why?
For every goal that we'd concede, he'd make us three. Quality forwards like ours would think that they'd died and gone to heaven with the chances he'd provide and they would be clear chances, not snatched half-chances from the middle of a crowd of defenders.
We would do o.k. with just one DM as long as our defence was properly organised and coached.
Nope, as I say, we'd manage with one DM. Ireland would play in front of him, as playmaker. Feed him and he would create fast, effective attacks.
As good as De Rossi is, I've never seen a a player with better passing vision than Ireland in a Blue shirt and I've been following City for a very long time . Take him for what he is and he would transform our team.
foetus
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bluemc1 said:foetus said:bluemc1 said:but is it not also the point we would of won if we had defended properly ? surely one is not more relevant than the other
Yes we probably would have. BUT that doesnt change the fact the ref made some very poor decisions. It doesnt matter if you let 2 goals in if you then go ahead and score 3 (which we did). The ref cost us the game....not the defending.
yes it does matter if you let in 2 goals cos then you have got to score 3, if we hadnt let in 2 we wouldnt of needed ref to give pen in the last second to get a win
We wouldnt of had to rely on the penalty if the linesman had made the correct decision and not disallowed sergio's goal. If the refs had made the correct decisions, we would've won. Whether its 3-2, 1-0 etc its still a win.
Lancet Fluke
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foetus said:bluemc1 said:foetus said:The point is we would've won if the ref had made the right calls. Yes we defended the corners poorly but the ref is paid to make the right calls. He had one job and he failed miserably.
but is it not also the point we would of won if we had defended properly ? surely one is not more relevant than the other
Yes we probably would have. BUT that doesnt change the fact the ref made some very poor decisions. It doesnt matter if you let 2 goals in if you then go ahead and score 3 (which we did). The ref cost us the game....not the defending.
The thing you seem to be totally ignoring is that we can't do anything about poor refereeing but we can (in theory at least) do something about our poor play. It doesn't help to focus on the things we can't change imo, we can only learn and improve if we accept the mistakes the team made and focus on those. Blaming the referee for tonight isn't going to help anything and whilst I'm sure Mancini is frustrated at the ref, I'd like to think he's more bothered about sorting out our defence that has become a relative shambles this season.
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Marvin said:Dutch football is that good our reserve striker starred last season in their league.bluemc1 said:Marvin said:In our squad, and get rid of who?
cant be bothered
thats a stretch for you to be saying why dutch football is bad, if only there was a better way to compare mmmmmmmm i know lets have the champions of england take on the champions of holland over 2 games and see how they get on,
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Me old fella said to me when i was younger 'dont be having to make 75ft putts to make par'....cause i was young i had'nt a clue what he was on about. Thought of him tonight mind
Lancet Fluke
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bluemc1 said:Marvin said:Dutch football is that good our reserve striker starred last season in their league.bluemc1 said:cant be bothered
thats a stretch for you to be saying why dutch football is bad, if only there was a better way to compare mmmmmmmm i know lets have the champions of england take on the champions of holland over 2 games and see how they get on,
They're currently a better team but you're arguing about who from Ajax would get in our team ie who has the better players aren't you? Not necessarily the same thing, is it?
foetus
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Lancet Fluke said:foetus said:bluemc1 said:but is it not also the point we would of won if we had defended properly ? surely one is not more relevant than the other
Yes we probably would have. BUT that doesnt change the fact the ref made some very poor decisions. It doesnt matter if you let 2 goals in if you then go ahead and score 3 (which we did). The ref cost us the game....not the defending.
The thing you seem to be totally ignoring is that we can't do anything about poor refereeing but we can (in theory at least) do something about our poor play. It doesn't help to focus on the things we can't change imo, we can only learn and improve if we accept the mistakes the team made and focus on those. Blaming the referee for tonight isn't going to help anything and whilst I'm sure Mancini is frustrated at the ref, I'd like to think he's more bothered about sorting out our defence that has become a relative shambles this season.
I agree entirely. Its over now...nothing we can do, im only gonna get more angry if i keep thinking it over. Just frustrating cos I we so close to getting the win and I feel the ref took it from us in the last few minutes.
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foetus said:bluemc1 said:foetus said:Yes we probably would have. BUT that doesnt change the fact the ref made some very poor decisions. It doesnt matter if you let 2 goals in if you then go ahead and score 3 (which we did). The ref cost us the game....not the defending.
yes it does matter if you let in 2 goals cos then you have got to score 3, if we hadnt let in 2 we wouldnt of needed ref to give pen in the last second to get a win
We wouldnt of had to rely on the penalty if the linesman had made the correct decision and not disallowed sergio's goal. If the refs had made the correct decisions, we would've won. Whether its 3-2, 1-0 etc its still a win.
wouldnt of needed linesman to get that right if we not let in 2 goals in the first half, do you see what we keep coming back to ?