City vs Bayern Munich Post match Thread

[sh249]

Course it does. If the Bayern players hadn't played with the desire to work and run and press we'd have had a far more comfortable evening. Sure he got the tactics wrong, but that doesn't excuse the lack of balls shown by our players - games like that, desire and bravery become arguably even more important than otherwise, and we were found to be painfully lacking.

Fine, i concede, play with 11 Milners and we would have won. Hands down spanked them with bravery.

fair enough, that's obviously a misunderstanding. Clear from the post earlier that I don't mean bravery to just be the willingness to run around (and I'm very rarely in favour of having Milner, despite his qualities, in the starting line-up) - Silva showed plenty of bravery when he came on by wanting the ball all the time, in tight areas, while the rest were hiding all night, frightened of getting the ball, frightened of trying to press.
As I said, of course the tactics were crucial, but the difference in mentality between the the two teams was frightening

 

[Mrmcfc]

Why does Dzeko start ahead of this man?

Because he helped you win the title? Because his goals of the bench last season gave this team chance to play in CL this year? Because he was your best forward in the preseason?? Because Negredo still need to prove himself?

done enough to prove himself for me,

 

[bluemoonmatt]

I'd like to add those knocking Fernandinho have short memories.

 

[mancity1]

Of course, technically they're on a different planet to us. Tactically too at the moment. But they also showed masses of desire, not only to press and to (want to) work their bollocks off, but also to get on the ball and play, even under pressure. The lack of bravery on the part of our players - excluding the three subs - was mindblowing.

Bravery has nothing to do with it. lol. Heart, bravery, desire etc all mean nothing when your team is set up to lose against the most skillful and efficient team.

Course it does. If the Bayern players hadn't played with the desire to work and run and press we'd have had a far more comfortable evening. Sure he got the tactics wrong, but that doesn't excuse the lack of balls shown by our players - games like that, desire and bravery become arguably even more important than otherwise, and we were found to be painfully lacking.

Agreed and to a man we showed none of it tonight.

Show no desire to work , run , press and you will always come up empty and more often than not get completely spanked in play and on the scoresheet as was the case tonight.

Are side is mentally soft simple as , if sides come at us we have no resistance to offer.

I see no evidence at all that MP has any capabilities to motivate our bunch of prima donnas to do what is needed to get us playing hard tough aggressive football needed for success in the premiership and in Europe.

I can handle a defeat when you know your side has given everything but come up short like Celtic last night but we showed no bottle at all.

Yes we are miles behind many sides in Europe in quality , class etc but that doesn't excuse a lack of graft and desire to put in a shift.

We keep talking about one of the best squads in the premiership but it means diddly if you are not prepared to put in.

 

[Citizen_Ando]

Biggest concern for me (aside from Hart) is that we didn't change anything until it was too late. Worrying signs. We need a big result against Everton before the international break.

 

[Zlatan]

NAVAS is biggest mistake of this club. HE will fucked up a few twice a players he never will be :)
He is not good enough to be elite winger and never will be. so his production of good pases to the box will be limited. In defence he is shit. ( today goals ) And he is talking always a place of one or two much better players than him ( Silva, Jovetic ) today. A LOSE/LOSE SITUATION. The sooner you people realise that ( and give him A. Johnson role ) the better. And yes this few chances he menaged to create he chose who he will pass the ball, instead of who is in best position.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

I'm afraid Pellegrini got this horribly, totally wrong. Allowing Bayern an extra man in midfield was always courting absolute disaster. Doing nothing at all about it was completely clueless. Admittedly Joe sent out an invitation after 7minutes to them to play the game they love , but the only response of the manager was to look at his watch to see how much longer the agony was to last! Agreed Bayern are a great side , and City gift wrapped all three goals, but this is the manager brought in to improve our performances in Europe. We may be lucky that we are in a group with Plzen and Moscow, but Mancini never presided over an abject shambles such as this.

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

We were like a rabbit in the headlights tonight.

If it wasn't obvious when we saw the team sheets it was within ten minutes - we were set up completely wrong to have any chance whatsoever. Inexplicable that it wasn't changed during the game.

Unforgiveable almost in fact.

Yes Hart had a 'mare, and needs taking out of the firing line perhaps, but Yaya and Fernandinho were hung out to dry in the middle pretty much four against two, and no idea why we changed both fullbacks - not knocking Micah or Clichy but neither have played much football this year, so why change both? What Clichy was doing for the second goal I will never know.

I'm trying not to point the finger at the manager, but it's difficult not to. Bayern are a wonderful side and showed it tonight, however we are not the terrible side we showed tonight, and it was down to the set up and naivety in tactics for me that widened the gap between us to almost embarrassing proportions.

The poor performances are alarmingly more frequent than the good ones so far this season. Tonight was piss poor. Again.

Not seeing anything to change my mind about whether or not we made a huge mistake or not last May. We clearly did.

 

[ZZmaestro]

completely outclassed, our tactics were appalling and we were lucky to only lose 3-1, At least silva and negrado looked good when they came on.

Unfortunatly,we are lying to ourselves to let us think that.
We "looked good" because they subbed Schwensteiger, and Robben, and Riberry. We were fighting against the B-team at first gear, mate.

 

[Jimfv1]

Bayern are the best team in Europe, and shown us the type of football we need to be playing to be a top European side. The tactics were wrong and it was obvious Pellegrini should have either took of a striker or told one of them to play much deeper to help out the midfield. Clichy was at fault for the second goal, and Hart shouldn't have been beaten at his near post twice.

A combination of all the above issues showed us up again in Europe, but the other games can't be as bad as this. We have to take on Bayern man for man when we play them away and Fernandinho has to be our holding midfielder and Nasri, Toure, Silva and A.N.Other (Jovetic/Milner/Navas/Rodwell) in midfield with Negredo or Aguero up top.

Richards and Clichy were both on the back foot today and couldn't help our midfield like the Bayern fullbacks got forward to effectively give Bayern a 2-1-7 formation at times. Muller dropped into midfield, there two fullbacks pushed up, and Lahm helped out the two centre-backs, with Neuer in goal (probably the best keeper in the world at the moment) behind them, it was no contest especially after the early goal went in.


Anyway, if we get through the group and adapt our tactics, we do have a strong squad but have to play much smarter than tonight.