City vs Bayern Munich Post match Thread

[The-Dogs-Pollocks]

Completely passionless and tactically inept.

As mentioned by virtually all previous posters, why pellers didn't drop An extra man into midfield after 15 - 20 mins is a mystery and very worrying, I was a bit uncertain about him after watching the hull game when the same thing happened, then when we demolished utd I thought I must have been wrong and maybe a two man midfield with a high pressing line could work, tonight it certainly did not.

I think he is too rigid, trying to play this formation even when it's obviously costing us in every other match.

Also very unimpressed with the purchases with the exception of negredo who looks a decent player.

Fernandinho didn't have much help tonight but apart from one performance against utd he looks distinctly average to me, no better or worse than what we already had.

Navas just seems like Swp mark two (after chelski) speedy but with no end product, the number of misplaced passes from him tonight was shocking.

How Dzecko is still in starting line up, I don't know, No heart or desire to play in such a big game, never want to see him in a city shirt again.

I thought city may improve in Europe this season with the change of manager, I even thought it may of been Mancini holding us back in the competition in previous seasons, but tonight has proved that the players can't handle the pressure, go a goal down and collapse, very worrying.

Saturday against Everton becomes a big game now, we need to bounce back, will be interesting to see who starts and he keeps faith in this system.

Anyway that's my rant over, sorry for long post, just needed to get it out of my system!

 

[ManCitizens.]

Tonight's humiliating defeat lies squarely on Pelligrini's shoulders.

He decided to play 4-4-2, allowing our midfield to get continously overrun virtually all game.

He decided to play bring in two two full-backs who haven't played for a while, which created uncertainty for our centre halves and whoever was being the defensive midfielder.

We neither attacked as a team nor defended as a team, we seemed to be caught between two stools until he finally woke up and changed to 4-2-3-1, but it was too late the damage had already been done.

This idiot manager has turned a team of league champions into bungling fools in less than 10 matches.

We weren't the league champions you clown.

 

[Citizen_Ando]

Biggest concern for me (aside from Hart) is that we didn't change anything until it was too late. Worrying signs. We need a big result against Everton before the international break.

Try harder.

What's your point?! I was concerned that we didn't change anything until it was too late when we were getting overrun in midfield, albeit against the best team in Europe. If you're implying I'm a rag then congratulations, it's my first time. Welcome to bluemoon. Fuck me.

 

[Mrmcfc]

Biggest concern for me (aside from Hart) is that we didn't change anything until it was too late. Worrying signs. We need a big result against Everton before the international break.

Try harder.

What's your point?! I was concerned that we didn't change anything until it was too late when we were getting overrun in midfield, albeit against the best team in Europe. If you're implying I'm a rag then congratulations, it's my first time. Welcome to bluemoon. Fuck me.

he amended mate, he meant to quote someone else and not you.
:)

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

Navas just seems like Swp mark two (after chelski) speedy but with no end product, the number of misplaced passes from him tonight was shocking.

Bad game from Jesus tonight. Reminded of the quote from Mancini after he looked at him - something like 'great pace but couldn't hit a barn door'. His crossing (and passing in general) was dreadful sadly.

 

[Citizen_Ando]

Try harder.

What's your point?! I was concerned that we didn't change anything until it was too late when we were getting overrun in midfield, albeit against the best team in Europe. If you're implying I'm a rag then congratulations, it's my first time. Welcome to bluemoon. Fuck me.

he amended mate, he meant to quote someone else and not you.
:)

Nice one! I'll get back to drinking then :-p

 

[Mrmcfc]

What's your point?! I was concerned that we didn't change anything until it was too late when we were getting overrun in midfield, albeit against the best team in Europe. If you're implying I'm a rag then congratulations, it's my first time. Welcome to bluemoon. Fuck me.

he amended mate, he meant to quote someone else and not you.
:)

Nice one! I'll get back to drinking then :-p

As will i sir, as will i.

 

[daxman]

Guardiola leaves his top scorer Mandzukic on the bench so he can have
really strong midfield, we could seen it worked to perfection inside
first 20 minutes.
Meanwhile Pelegrini starts with two forwards. and as much i like Nasri's
and Yaya's creativity going forward they are liability when it comes
down to backtracking and defending.Last 20 minutes just proves even more
how much Pelegrini missed with tactics.
With introduction of Milner and Silva we took control of midfield and
started creating chances. I just hope this is lesson learned.

Bayern took their foot off the gas. It wouldn't have mattered who started, they were just better. Sure Pellegrini screwed up starting with 2 strikers, coz this is just a poor way to set up. Strikers (no matter how hardworking) simply don't work hard enough the whole game to help wrestle possession. When you play 2 against a good team, you just put yourself at a dissadvantage.

Pellegrini, our board and policy on aquistition cost us this game. Teams who play with 2 strikers simply are porous. You just need 1 striker, possession, and high pressure. That is what every good team does today.

It is not only a well thought out starting lineup, but also a well thought out bench.

You have to make your mind up

****Prematch thread, page 51: My response to Fantasyireland on how we should lineup****

Perhaps, but this is no time to start trying old toys in new positions . We either match their formation, or simply play ours. Personally I'd prefer we match their formation, as I think that is our strongest formation too.

Micah-Komps-Nasty-Clichy
----------Fernandihno----------
Navas-Silva--Yaya---Nasri
------------Aguero
And if SIlva Can't go, play Jovetic left and Nasri middle.

or play our basic formation

Micah_Komps_Nasty_Clichy
_________Dihno____________
Navas___Yaya_______Nasri
____Aguero___Dzeko_____

I put Dzeko coz I suspect he is starting after escorting MP to the interview.

There is what I think is best (1 striker up top, 5 midfielders with 4 defenders), and their is what we do philosophically, and which players are best under that philosophy. I have been harping on the malaise of having 4 or 5 strikers for years. But we do because we play with 2 strikers. And when we do, I can only support what the best decisions are based on what we do. The starting lineup and bench was well thought out based on our philosphy. This doesn't mean I don't believe there is a better philosophy out there. I do. And have been harping on it for years. It was why I didn't want us buying any strikers until we sold all but 1 and just buy 1 more. We need 2 strikers on the squad not 4.

 

[Lenblue]

I don't usually reply on matchday threads, but after reading the first 13 or so pages of this... I cannot believe the following had not been mentioned : \Richards, and his eagerness to knock the ball into the net with his back from a corner!! Just head the bleeder!! Not fit, and should not have played! Navas, still not impressed, but still leaves me shouting Jesus!! every time he gives the ball away! Joe, forget the Head and Shoulders, and concentrate on positioning, still young, plenty of time, , Midfield, totally lacking tonight, Silva and Milner were good, but Robben and Ribery had their feet up by then.. Pellegrini should come good, £48 a ticket?? Germany have it right.. City fans home and away, the myth is we have very loyal and loud fans? For those who think throwing a few beers around and singing on the concourse at away games mean we have top fans, take time to watch the Bayern fans tonight.. Choreographed, yes, but totally, totally showed us up . We cannot match this home or away. For Bayern, read Dortmund, Poznan, Napoli etc. Separate issue, Heineken, pay all that money to sponsor the comp, and we can't even get a pint?? For the next round, we will save our £40 odd quid (x3) and get a few beers in, a few pies at less than £3,80, and sing out louder than we did tonight!!

 

[SuperSilva]

Just got in after the game...

Dear god.

Even I could see that when the team sheet was announced and Bayern were playing without a striker and packing the midfield it was obvious Pep wanted to dominate possession in the middle of the park ... just as he did at Barca.

When Pelle decided to play 2 upfront and 4 in mid, I though there and then "we're f*cked" and we aint winning tonight...

That combined with the fact that Silva was brought on too late replacing Nasri (who should have stayed on) instead of Navas AND more than anything Joe Hart (I know, I know) is having the worst form a GK can ever have at the moment and completely screwed up the 1st and 3rd goals ... we were never in this game.

Most people including myself are surprised that Pellegrini, the most astute manager at substitutions and tactical intellect, got this game completely wrong from the team sheet and formation on wards.

I hope we learn from this ... play Aguero and Negredo a little more with Aguero playing deeper behind Negredo and taking some guts by dropping Hart for 2 games and giving Panty a chance...

Bring on Everton ... gulp