Civil war in Spain?

No it wouldn't be fine and it isn't going to be fine, there's an echo chamber sounding the same bell over and over again and it wont make it so. Control of our borders and the protection of British citizens (That includes jobs) should be paramount in the minds of our government.


ok but thats not what we the brexit vote was about.
It was about leaving the EU.
Some campaigned for a brexit with strict border controls, some campaigned that we could leave but stay in the single market(which requires free movement of people)
People voted on both those issues (in what numbers, who knows, the question was not asked). Therefore unless we have a second vote on the type of brexit we want both are equally valid and legal ways to leave the EU.
 
The Spanish authorities are conducted raids across Catalunya and have arrested a number of prominent Catalans as part of a drive to stop an independence vote they've declared illegal. Apparently the Catalans have threatened to unilaterally declare independence within 48 hours of a 'Yes' vote.

Should we be sending the SAS in to rescue Messi?

Our involvement in the actual Spanish Civil war is already questionable, best we not get involved again.

Catalan has been pushing independace for decades.

Expect messi would be on the barricades with Peps brother fighting off the falange and castilians.
 
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ok but thats not what we the brexit vote was about.
It was about leaving the EU.
Some campaigned for a brexit with strict border controls, some campaigned that we could leave but stay in the single market(which requires free movement of people)
People voted on both those issues (in what numbers, who knows, the question was not asked). Therefore unless we have a second vote on the type of brexit we want both are equally valid and legal ways to leave the EU.

Every single leading politician stipulated that a vote to leave was a vote to leave the single market and end the free movement of people revisionism in this case doesn't make the vote go away. Even Corbyn conceded that, it wasn't just those nasty Tories.
You can't control immigration and protect the rights of British workers and stay in the single market, it's going to end up as a no deal and that's fine with me.
 
The Spanish authorities are conducted raids across Catalunya and have arrested a number of prominent Catalans as part of a drive to stop an independence vote they've declared illegal. Apparently the Catalans have threatened to unilaterally declare independence within 48 hours of a 'Yes' vote.

Should we be sending the SAS in to rescue Messi?
SAS -
What Sane Aguero and Sterling ?
 
Every single leading politician stipulated that a vote to leave was a vote to leave the single market and end the free movement of people revisionism in this case doesn't make the vote go away. Even Corbyn conceded that, it wasn't just those nasty Tories.
You can't control immigration and protect the rights of British workers and stay in the single market, it's going to end up as a no deal and that's fine with me.

they really didnt. Lots did but not all.
we cant even agree on facts, so there is no point trying to discuss this sensibly is there.

I am glad you are likely to get what you voted for, but you cant say its what everyone who voted leave voted for, because we just dont know because the relevant question hasnt been asked.
Not asking the relevant question(s) was what was wrong with the Brexit vote.

But we are where we are and I hope we go down the access to the single market route. If we dont, then we just get to live with the consequences
 
Everyone has 'access' to the single market. Pretending we, or Catalonia in this case, won't, is nonsensical. The question is on what terms.
 
they really didnt. Lots did but not all.
we cant even agree on facts, so there is no point trying to discuss this sensibly is there.

I am glad you are likely to get what you voted for, but you cant say its what everyone who voted leave voted for, because we just dont know because the relevant question hasnt been asked.
Not asking the relevant question(s) was what was wrong with the Brexit vote.

But we are where we are and I hope we go down the access to the single market route. If we dont, then we just get to live with the consequences

This isn't the Brexit thread it's a thread about Catalan independence so I'll agree to disagree and carry on regardless. However the rise of nationalism is in part a response to the EU and it's going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better.
 
Can you lot fekk off with your Brexit talk?

Anyways, if they did actually vote for independence, what would happen then, and would the Basque region want the same? Would ETA reform?
 

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