Clattenburg, the FA & Adebayor - proof that the system is bent

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

The attacks on Reyes by Scum against Arsenal, reminded me of the treatment SWP got in a Etihad derby a few years ago. Think Sir Baconface liked to target certain players and instructed his teams to do so knowing that they could get away with it.

I was boiling that day. Blatant as fuck and the ref doing fuck all about it.

 

[Chipmeister]

That Arsenal game v utd was the worst refereeing I have ever seen just plain corrupt no other explanation for how bad the decisions were.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

So which games in that season did we benefit from decisions that made the difference between winning and not winning?

Off the top of my head:
Liverpool (h) Sterling clean through, flagged offside when onside by a yard.
Newcastle (a) Goal from Tiote, wrongly disallowed by Mike Jones for 'offside' at 0-1.
Spurs (a) penalty and red card against Danny Rose at 0-1. Shouldn't have been either.

 

[blueju]

What amazes me in all this is not that the FA or whoever have broken their own rules, it's that their own rules are so fucking stupid that when incidents like this happens they have to actually bend/break them themselves to get justice.

The Adebayor example, he deserved to be banned, no one can argue. The Aguero incident, obviously more ambitious, but IMO I feel he does deserve a ban too.

Why don't the FA change the rules so that retrospective bans can be issued regardless of whether the ref has 'dealt' with it. If there is a perceived injustice, then they should examine it post match.

Because they only usually react when there's media outcry, can you remember much media outcry and sky loops for fellainis assault and spitting on zabba? The verbals shrek constantly gives referees? It's just brushed over by the whole establishment

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Off the top of my head:
Liverpool (h) Sterling clean through, flagged offside when onside by a yard.
Newcastle (a) Goal from Tiote, wrongly disallowed by Mike Jones for 'offside' at 0-1.
Spurs (a) penalty and red card against Danny Rose at 0-1. Shouldn't have been either.

None of those incidents were in the 2011/12 season which we're talking about.

 

[Corky]

Ade got let off with the run in the end as they knew they were wrong. A suspended ban means no ban, like our suspended behind closed doors punishment we got after the spurs game.

 

[Tarzan41]

I can think of one maybe, which was the Spurs game in which retrospective action was taken against Balotelli for a stamp on Parker, and he then scored a last minute penalty. But someone else could have equally taken that penalty.

I recall Balotelli was the man fouled for the penalty also. Overall I don't think we got anything else that season whilst the scum got loads. Even in the 6-1 we were denied a blatant penalty at 1-0. Richards fouled.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

It's simple, he is either getting paid to fuck us over or he has a real, deep loathing of all things Man City because he has been doing the same thing ever since he was in charge of the 6-1 against the rags. His record of refereeing our matches since that day now reads Won 6 Drew 5 Lost 6 and our record against top 6 sides has become 3 draws and 6 defeats and NO victories. If the opposition gives him the chance to have us over he takes it with both hands as was shown in his rabid enthusiasm to award what was an almost impossible incident to judge with such speed.

I'll give you some other stats about Clattenburg reffing our games. From 2004/5 (the first time he reffed us) to 2008/9, our league record in games under him was P9 W7 D2 L0 and that's with a crap team. Since 2009 that record has been P25 W10 D8 L7, against a total league record of W142 D43 L43. If our record under him had mirrored our league record then that would be P25 W15 D5 L5. So on that basis he has potentially fiddled us out of something like 12 points. You can work out what some of those are:

Potentially 2 at Bolton in 2009/10, when he wrongly sent Bellamy off in a 3-3 draw;
Potentially 2 at Fulham in 2011/12 when Dzeko was fouled in the lead up to one of their goals;
Potentially 3 at Chelsea the same season, when he wrongly denied us a penalty when we were 1-0 up;
Potentially 3 at Liverpool in 2013/14, when he should have awarded two penalties to us and sent Suarez off.
Potentially 2 at Arsenal in 2014/15 when both their goals were preceded by fouls on City players and we were denied a penalty for handball by Wilshere.

And then the two Spurs games last season where we might well have got at least a point in both.

And why is the split between those years so important? Because in 2009 his mate, Thaksin Shinawatra, was completely removed from the club.

 

[BlueTG]

Off the top of my head:
Liverpool (h) Sterling clean through, flagged offside when onside by a yard.
Newcastle (a) Goal from Tiote, wrongly disallowed by Mike Jones for 'offside' at 0-1.
Spurs (a) penalty and red card against Danny Rose at 0-1. Shouldn't have been either.

I'm sorry but that Tiote decision was a cracking one.

 

[levets]

Hurrah that he's 100% certain of something he can't be 100% certain of? We have no idea if some referees have some sort of bias towards certain teams. It's not beyond the realms of possibility. They are human after all.
There's no way of knowing either way but I wouldn't be shouting from the rooftops that the game is 100% clean.

The obviously have their personal likes and dislikes that's without doubt.
Who was the ref that expressed a dislike to our then manager Mark Hughes (or his assistant), at halftime, concerning Bellamy, to then send him (Bellamy)off in the 2nd half when he himself had been fouled? Despite the Bolton full back telling him it was wrong. Was it Clattenberg?