Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

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Oh look the Bravo thread is active again, wonder if something interesting has happened.....Nope, just the same few people slagging him off while a much broader demographic point out how ridiculous they're being.

Perhaps I'll look in again in a week.
 
Bravo has had a poor first season. From what I've seen of him, this seems down to a lack of confidence compounding the existing problems within his game. However, it would also be foolish to suggest he's a bad goalkeeper.

His position is a bit of a rarity in that more than any other, mistakes are highlighted and cost the team. Perhaps more than any other position, lack of confidence affects the players in front of you. Lack of confidence breeds lack of confidence and affects decision making. Having had Joe in the team for so long we've seen this go both ways.

As has been rightly pointed out there could be/are a number of different reasons why this could be beyond his performances for City this year. Most importantly, it's his first year in England it takes time to adapt for everyone but a select few (Aguero, Kompany etc.).

There's no question he's been brought in to play a designated tactical role within the team. In my mind, he's ahead of Willy in this respect. However, he doesn't seem to have the inner confidence someone like Neuer has.

Bearing all this in mind, it seems stupid to write him off. Given time, man management, a few good performances we might well see a much needed boost to his confidence. It's also counter-intuitive to be linked with keepers like Jordan Pickford as a replacement. Besides being young and English, he seems to be the opposite of what Pep is looking for.

It seems to me that if he has the resolve to stay and fight for his place, he has the capacity to be the goalkeeper we need. Every goalkeeper we have will go through this to some extent it's inevitable. The important factor seems to be the level of goalkeeper we want behind the current form.

For me, it's a level above Bravo. More importantly, for Pep he's willing to have an unspectacular goalkeeper who has outfield abilities. So it at least makes sense to play him, take the rough with the smooth, and see if there is an improvement overall. If not, the tactics need tweaking.
 
Ok. Last effort for what it's worth. Two statements by Pep when being a City manager:
1- players need to adept to Bravo, not the other way round.
2- fasten your seatbelt.

Now what exactly do the Anti Bravo Brigade (ABB) think he ment by that? And yes, it is all related to Bravo obviously.
 
Fuck all. Not that you'd know it.

It would be reasonable to say he did nothing wrong. But it could be argued that a keepers job isn't about what they don't do but what they do do. Eg there was one world class save on Sunday and it prevented us from winning the game
 
It would be reasonable to say he did nothing wrong. But it could be argued that a keepers job isn't about what they don't do but what they do do. Eg there was one world class save on Sunday and it prevented us from winning the game

So that's justification to have a go at Bravo again? Really?

What did you make of how slow Cech was to react to Aguero's heavy touch when one on one?
 
So that's justification to have a go at Bravo again? Really?

What did you make of how slow Cech was to react to Aguero's heavy touch when one on one?

Wasn't really having a go, just offering a view. But clearly my view isn't relevant, nor is yours, only Pep's is. So it may be irrelevant but my belief is that a keeper can't save everything, and I repeat, I don't thing Bravo did anything wrong, but world class keepers influence match results. Czech was hesitant I agree but that didn't affect the result, however is finger tip save of Yayas effort late in the 90 mins was a game changer. Do you disagree?
 
Wasn't really having a go, just offering a view. But clearly my view isn't relevant, nor is yours, only Pep's is. So it may be irrelevant but my belief is that a keeper can't save everything, and I repeat, I don't thing Bravo did anything wrong, but world class keepers influence match results. Czech was hesitant I agree but that didn't affect the result, however is finger tip save of Yayas effort late in the 90 mins was a game changer. Do you disagree?

A keeper with better movement would've beaten Aguero to that ball so yeah I'd disagree. I do however agree in general that Bravo hasn't pulled off any stops that have influenced match results and we need him to do that ( he's capable ).

There are plenty on here having a go mate and that's what people are responding to.
 
Do it yourself because it has nothing to with the point I was making, so I don't see why I should indulge you.
So you were happy to get joe v bravo stats but not bravo v bravo stats? your whole point is to take his past into consideration but you won't show the stats to prove your point lol
 
So you were happy to get joe v bravo stats but not bravo v bravo stats? your whole point is to take his past into consideration but you won't show the stats to prove your point lol

No it isn't Karen, one more time, my point is that it is unfair to dismiss Bravo's performance elsewhere in an appraisal of him but then use other keeper's performances elsewhere as a stick to beat him with.

Bravo's save percentage last season was 79%
Bravo's save percentage this season is 55%

^League games only

There you go
 
No it isn't Karen, one more time, my point is that it is unfair to dismiss Bravo's performance elsewhere in an appraisal of him but then use other keeper's performances elsewhere as a stick to beat him with.

Bravo's save percentage last season was 79%
Bravo's save percentage this season is 55%

^League games only

There you go
Thank you
Every single player on the planet gets compared to the others in the same position,i'm not beating him with anything,i am comparing him to 19 of his peers,20 including willy
 
Oh look the Bravo thread is active again, wonder if something interesting has happened.....Nope, just the same few people slagging him off while a much broader demographic point out how ridiculous they're being.

Perhaps I'll look in again in a week.

Funny, isn't it? I'm sure the page numbers keep going up but every time I check it's just the same shite I saw the previous time.
 
It would be reasonable to say he did nothing wrong. But it could be argued that a keepers job isn't about what they don't do but what they do do. Eg there was one world class save on Sunday and it prevented us from winning the game
No world class fucking goal either by KDB or Yaya. The ****s.
 
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