Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

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sir baconface said:
No, he's not. And your response makes me suspect you're not a Manc.

(Pardon me if I'm wrong but you'll soon be along to tell me if I am.)
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Born and bred, swear on me nan's grave. Gorton on my mum's side and Hazelgrove on my dad's so maybe I'm only half Manc ;)

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by "one of our own" as I assumed you meant a part of our club. And, although that post was written in a bad moment and 'fickle' wasn't the word I was looking for, living in the belly of the beast for this long has taught me not to overempathise and make excuses for the behaviour of dickheads.

What Ric described seemed to be another example of a know it all gob shite bandwagoner yet again looking to belittle someone who I personally would describe as "one of our own". I'd be far more inclined to believe that such petulance is more likely to be a partial result of the blame culture and shortsightedness continually being cultivated by mass media rather than a result of misplaced 'loyalty' towards a former player. Well, that and the guy was clearly a thick twat.
 
One of the worse keepers ever to play for the Blues.

What Pep was thinking when he brought him in is beyond my comprehension.

Apart from a save he made at Burnley I can not recall him making any other save, his distribution isn't that great either.

With a defence like ours we need somebody behind them to make up for some of their clangers, and it is definitely not him.

P.S. - In this day of football mercenaries are any of them truly "one of our own?"
 
Gray said:
One of the worse keepers ever to play for the Blues.

What Pep was thinking when he brought him in is beyond my comprehension.

Apart from a save he made at Burnley I can not recall him making any other save, his distribution isn't that great either.

With a defence like ours we need somebody behind them to make up for some of their clangers, and it is definitely not him.
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The one straight at him at Palace that some claim was amazing and the one straight at him that he tipped over v Burnley at home. Someone said to me today swapping Hart for Bravo due to him being better with his feet is the equivalent of swapping Aguero for Crouch as he is better with his head. It's hard to argue with it. I don't think Hart is the answer either though.
 
SWP's back said:
Yes I was. I genuinely don't understand why one is "one of us" and one isn't.

So Kolarov is one of us as he's been here ages but Sane and G.Jesus aren't.

I can't agree with the logic.

I'd say all players are "one of us".
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mosssideblue said:
What a bizarre thing to say. Gen question which players in our squad don't fall into the category of not being one of our own?
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Clearly I can't go through the squad player by player so let me explain in general terms.

"One of ours" was intended to mean more than just someone on our books. It isn't determined by place of birth, race or nationality. It's someone who has earned their spurs through effort, commitment, local empathy, etc. Someone who's adopted us and contributed plenty to the cause. Classic exemplars: Zab, SWP, Micah, The Goat.

Conversely, someone who has no obvious local or club allegiance, or who may have been here five minutes, or contributed little of note and has not neither taken us into his bosom or vice versa is not (yet) "one of us". Classic exemplars: Danny-fcukin-Mills, Wayne Bridge, McMinimum.

Now tell me why that's bizarre. Because your ridiculous obsession with Bravo, which seems to dominate your every working hour and defy everyone else's observations, would strike some as bizarre. (Latter point directed at mossideblue because I know SWPB is now coming round.)
 
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Tugay One Cup said:
Born and bred, swear on me nan's grave. Gorton on my mum's side and Hazelgrove on my dad's so maybe I'm only half Manc ;)

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant by "one of our own" as I assumed you meant a part of our club. And, although that post was written in a bad moment and 'fickle' wasn't the word I was looking for, living in the belly of the beast for this long has taught me not to overempathise and make excuses for the behaviour of dickheads.

What Ric described seemed to be another example of a know it all gob shite bandwagoner yet again looking to belittle someone who I personally would describe as "one of our own". I'd be far more inclined to believe that such petulance is more likely to be a partial result of the blame culture and shortsightedness continually being cultivated by mass media rather than a result of misplaced 'loyalty' towards a former player. Well, that and the guy was clearly a thick twat.
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Fair enough mate. Credentials no longer in doubt and crow pie duly eaten :)
 
Gray said:
One of the worse keepers ever to play for the Blues.

What Pep was thinking when he brought him in is beyond my comprehension.

Apart from a save he made at Burnley I can not recall him making any other save, his distribution isn't that great either.

With a defence like ours we need somebody behind them to make up for some of their clangers, and it is definitely not him.

P.S. - In this day of football mercenaries are any of them truly "one of our own?"
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You don't like Pep, which is clear from your posts recently and you can't be taken seriously after posting this about him the other day.

Gray said:
Sorry but he has lost all credibility with me over his baffling decision to replace Hart with Bravo.

If I was the Sheikh I would be looking around for a replacement already.
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sir baconface said:
Clearly I can't go through the squad player by player so let me explain in general terms.

"One of ours" was intended to mean more than just someone on our books. It isn't determined by place of birth, race or nationality. It's someone who has earned their spurs through effort, commitment, local empathy, etc. Someone who's adopted us and contributed plenty to the cause. Classic exemplars: Zab, SWP, Micah, The Goat.

Conversely, someone who has no obvious local or club allegiance, or who may have been here five minutes, or contributed little of note and has not neither taken us into his bosom or vice versa is not (yet) "one of us". Classic exemplars: Danny-fcukin-Mills, Wayne Bridge, McMinimum.

Now tell me why that's bizarre. Because your ridiculous obsession with Bravo, which seems to dominate your every working hour and defy everyone else's observations, would strike some as bizarre. (Latter point directed at mossideblue because I know SWPB is now coming round.)
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Because any true blue should be acknowledging any player who plays for us as being one of ours. Quite simple really. But your setting your own bar as to who qualifies, so will leave it with you
 
dubblue said:
Someone said to me today swapping Hart for Bravo due to him being better with his feet is the equivalent of swapping Aguero for Crouch as he is better with his head. It's hard to argue with it. I don't think Hart is the answer either though.
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If we decided to start playing continual long balls, Aguero would most likely come under threat from a new signing who dominated in the air. I assume the Crouch thing is hyperbole though for obvious reasons.

And Claudio wasn't bought because he's better with his feet, he was bought because he was more suitable with his head. By that I mean he's previously shown himself to have borderline superhuman composure, something the fiery and ever pumped-up Joe has always lacked.

Unfortunately, that is one of Bravo's attributes which has continually been in the decline during his time with us.
 
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