Mate, I'm struggling with your logic here.
You think that me wanting a poll between the popular round badge and the popular existing eagle badge was in some way supporting an "eagle out" campaign. How so? There was no rule that you couldn't vote for the eagle! In fact, it was one of only two options so how could it possibly be discriminatory?!
Again, from all that I have read, the most popular design that includes the eagle is the current badge. I don't mind it myself, and if the eagle is to stay I'd be more than happy to stick to the current badge. I put it on the poll because it's a popular design, and it just so happens it's the existing badge that we're voting whether to keep or change! If I was being "eagle-ist" I would have included one of the less popular eagle designs.
I value your family's views, and the views of all genuine blues. If they wanted to keep the eagle, they would be more than welcome to vote for it, as would everyone else who wanted to keep the eagle. I really don't understand your point.
You have family and friends that want to keep the eagle. I have family and friends, including a 10 year old nephew who want to change to the round badge with the rivers. But that's purely anecdotal on both of our counts.
The whole reason for the poll was to see a consensus. It may not have matched up with your family's views, it may not have matched with mine, but a poll would give us some kind of idea of a consensus.
That's kind of the point of any vote; to find the popular view. So I'm struggling to see how you could possibly think I was being biased by wanting a vote open to all?
Sorry I'm not very good at articulating myself at getting what I mean across well and I'm on my phone so hit a lot of wrong buttons too so the spellings ate out quite a bit(not that I'm the best speller anyway(
looking at posts from others and yourself, including the request for a poll - old style badge revamped v current eagle badge got my goat up a bit,
The poll current v old being the trigger for me to say somthing (I know later you included other badges)
The old v the current would win hands down with most and that's without the old being revamped in sutch a good way the guy has done it...
My argument was that I felt that using the current badge in a poll that was so Heverly outweighted in favoure of the old badge ( most of us prefer the round style as muen poll and comments in here show) may be seen to state that people would not like to have the eagle in any part of the badge,
I originally commented that the round badges with the eagle in should also be put in any preference poll rather then just the revamped old style and the current , which if I remember rightly was your 1st request for a poll ,
I am awair that most people want a round - me too
Most want the ship - me too
Most want the rivers - me too
Some want the rose - not fussed
Some want the eagle in some capasity - I wouldn't mined
But some on here and I don't want to trawl back naming names (I don't really look at posters names when I'm reading posts so don't know if maybe you also have been guilty of this )
Just want the eagle out full stop like there's a personal hate of it , I don't understand this as it's been with us a while now and is embedded into our history weather we like it or not.
Me personally will be exept what ever we get weather Iike it or not as It will be our badge.
I don't particularly want the rose or croses but unlike some I won't belittle people that like it on here like some have done or campanile for its total exclusion like has been done from some...
Hope that explained better, probably not,