Club Badge (merged)

Gary James said:
The ship predates the ship canal. As I said in the talks and on the radio the ship does represent Manchester's trading links and it is believed (though not conclusive) that it points the way it does because Manchester's main trading partner was America (Cotton). That last bit about direction may or may not be 100% but it is 100% that it does not represent the ship canal as it predated the ship canal by decades.

I know most fans have a good grasp of our heritage but if a tour guide can get this wrong then it's understandable that others do. This was one of the reasons why it was important for everyone to participate in the consultation because there are misconceptions about almost every element (I listed quite a few of them way back on this thread). FCUM claim their ship represents the ship canal - which it is up to them of course - but that's not what the Manchester ship represents. It was a way of showing trading links. Had we created the badge today maybe the ship would be a plane and maybe it'd point towards Europe, the Middle East or the Far East.
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without researching the detailed history which you have done to your credit, from my simpleton's logic i would have thought the Ship Canal was built during the Industrial Revolution ... guessing that. The ship on the badge is a Clipper ship which I would associate with the Trade ships on the Tea Trade to China etc which i would have thought was centuries before (never took history clearly).

So from my point of view, i always took the ship as a douible meaning , representing the Ship Canal and Trade as one, even though i assumed they were in different eras .... just an homage to our 'business' throughout the history of Manchester.
 
Gary James said:
Simple - had we redesigned in the early 80s we could've had a plane pointing towards the east, a yellow tiled effect to represent the Arndale and instead of the Rose representing Lancs a great big yellow G with a TV aerial out the top on a blue background representing Granadaland.

For today the round badge could represent the M60, a Metrolink tram pointing towards AUL could be at the top and, to know we're talking about Manchester, we could have a cloud with rain coming from it in the bottom section.

I'd love to do talks in 50 years on those badges. By then of course people would say the plane represented Etihad, the tiles a long forgotten match sponsorship with Kitchens Direct and the Granada G was a religious cult that sat down every Mon & Wed at 7.30 to watch their Mancunian religious prog led by Hilda & Stan. The modern version they'd be saying the cloud represented the rainy days of the 1990s before City were rescued by Sir Paul Dickov, the tram would be a nod to Manchester's favourite stag day venue (!) and the M60 circle was actually based on the Jackie Onassis reservoir in Central Park because it'd been a cynical ploy to get a bit of NY on the City badge.
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Gary that is why you are a City fan, a brilliant sense of humour.

I attended one of your talks and enjoyed it very much - keep up the good work.
 
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The ship canal isn't in Manchester anyway , it just acts as the Salford and Trafford boundary. With the slavery connotations it is probably gets got rid of the ship, or is it to remember the opium war or the barbaric treatment of the English working classes in the industrial revolution? A football may be a more appropriate symbols or a vinyl record.
 
GeekinGav said:
without researching the detailed history which you have done to your credit, from my simpleton's logic i would have thought the Ship Canal was built during the Industrial Revolution ... guessing that. The ship on the badge is a Clipper ship which I would associate with the Trade ships on the Tea Trade to China etc which i would have thought was centuries before (never took history clearly).

So from my point of view, i always took the ship as a douible meaning , representing the Ship Canal and Trade as one, even though i assumed they were in different eras .... just an homage to our 'business' throughout the history of Manchester.
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Ship on coat of arms about 1842, ship canal opened 1894 (built 1880s to 1890s)
 
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