Club Statement: Tevez

Marvin said:
Josh Blue said:
Marvin said:
because I hope Tevez has it within in him to apologise and show by his actions that he is committed to honouring his contract and his obligations to the team.

never write people off. I am not a religious zealot who believes in good and bad people. "He's a bastard, and he can go to hell. And this man's a Saint and hallowed be his name."

I can easily imagine a stubborn man, unhappy with his lot, saying I'm not going on. There are all kinds of scenarios that could lead to that. It might be the wrong response but it doesn't mean you should necessarily wash your hands of him, and condemn him to eternal damnation.

he was Captain. Was Mancini's judgement so wrong then if you view people as unchanging elements who can be pigeon-holed? Maybe mancini can influence him, and "teach him". he is after all manager. Wouldn't that be the best possible scenario. We get the best player back, and we get an individual who is more capable of dealing with whatever situation it was that he couldn't handle

What you been smoking Marvin? He is not going to say sorry and knuckle down and win us the prem. He is a sulky, moody, selfish twat!

Why do people keep saying he is our best player? Is he fuck! He had two great seasons for us but they won't be repeated. David Silva is our best player, one of the worlds best, Tevez is not fit to lace sir Davids boots. Sergio is already showing why the Argies prefer him over Herman.

Captain? he was a shite captain and being made captain doesn't mean much, Kolo was the captain before him, doesn't been Kolo is the worlds best player.

Vincent Kompany is 100 times the man Herman is.

@Tevez City are you one of his kids or something, man the fuck up mate.
When Tevez signed I bet you were convinced, Tevez was The Man? Who knows what Kompany or a player like De Jong may do in time. Judge people by what they do, but also take into account why they did that. I don't know why Tevez did the unthinkable and refused to play football in a great game. That's bonkers, but there must be a reason. and it might be that mancini and Tevez can reach an agreement. If so, that is what I hope for.

Maybe that is unlikely, and I am allowing my desire to turn the clock back when tevez was a hero to over rule my head. But I am as big a blue as you. I just don't like writing a City player off without knowing what happened, and I don't think i ever will. if the manager has had enough, then fair enough. He lives and dies by his decisions.

But surely after tonights Official Club statement,even you must be able to see that the Club have found him guilty.
 
BlakeTheBlue said:
"He will report back to training on Thursday"

I don't like that bit, I certainly hope he doesn't train with the rest of the lads or even the EDS... He should be given an old bit of rope and told to skip in the corner. I don't want him anywhere near the group dripping poison into their ears.
'Carlos will report back to Roberto Mancini for training on thursday'. I like that part
 
Tevez City said:
Love you Carlos no matter what you do
You mad my dream ( City reaching Champions League + winning trophy )
a REALITY.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7muYYQkJQ[/youtube]
Do one rag
 
any one of us did that to our employer, we'd be laughed into the dole office there on the spot. fuck him. he ever puts a blue shirt on, its up and out the stadium for me. but ain't going to happen, really hoping city are about to show the footballing world how to deal with bullshit like this
 
"Carlos Tevez demands full apology from Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini in an effort to clear his name
Carlos Tévez will return to Manchester City on Thursday demanding an apology and retraction from Roberto Mancini as he continues to fight the manager’s allegation that he refused to play as a substitute against Bayern Munich last month."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...o-Mancini-in-an-effort-to-clear-his-name.html
 
Essembe said:
Here is my take on Carlos situation.

The one thing City and ADUG have shown is class and professionalism. Even with Robinho, City were careful to always show dignity and give the player dignified care, despite many of us wanting City to show their teeth and cut him loose or send him into the wilderness. The same is true with Carlos because football is about managing divas, and far bigger divas than even Mariah Carey could be.

tevez is one such diva and so every footballer is looking to see how City handle every situation. Thus far, we have come out smelling of roses and even in this current situation with Carlos, we are showing calm respect and authority(but not swinging the axe which we obviously have). Having power but using compassion sends out an even bigger message to our future signings.

Because Carlos is our diva. No matter how much he gets paid, he his still relatively young and dealing with that beast called fame and idolisation which can make even the most grounded individual go insane. He has even said so himself in reference to cheating on his wife, that fame caused him to make some bad decisions.

What I think the real cause of this latest Munich thing is, that he now has what he so desprately wanted which is to be re-united and living with his girls and his wife again. He was so overjoyed that she came back to England to live with him that he was not training as hard as he should have and he lost that edge and desire.

I have often wanted to kill Carlos myself but I remind myself that he is just another flawed human being, albeit very rich. I have alos refused to go to work sometimes, the only difference being is that I can call in sick and I wont get millions commenting on it.
Let me get this straight. You are saying because all is well in his life and he is pleased to be reunited with his family, that caused him to balloon into a fatty with a cant be arsed attitude. IMO he is so thick that he has allowed himself to be manipulated by the leech Kia and all the leech is interested in is making his next payday by moving Tevez on again. The leech has met his match this time.<br /><br />-- Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:20 pm --<br /><br />
Marvin said:
Josh Blue said:
Marvin said:
because I hope Tevez has it within in him to apologise and show by his actions that he is committed to honouring his contract and his obligations to the team.

never write people off. I am not a religious zealot who believes in good and bad people. "He's a bastard, and he can go to hell. And this man's a Saint and hallowed be his name."

I can easily imagine a stubborn man, unhappy with his lot, saying I'm not going on. There are all kinds of scenarios that could lead to that. It might be the wrong response but it doesn't mean you should necessarily wash your hands of him, and condemn him to eternal damnation.

he was Captain. Was Mancini's judgement so wrong then if you view people as unchanging elements who can be pigeon-holed? Maybe mancini can influence him, and "teach him". he is after all manager. Wouldn't that be the best possible scenario. We get the best player back, and we get an individual who is more capable of dealing with whatever situation it was that he couldn't handle

What you been smoking Marvin? He is not going to say sorry and knuckle down and win us the prem. He is a sulky, moody, selfish twat!

Why do people keep saying he is our best player? Is he fuck! He had two great seasons for us but they won't be repeated. David Silva is our best player, one of the worlds best, Tevez is not fit to lace sir Davids boots. Sergio is already showing why the Argies prefer him over Herman.

Captain? he was a shite captain and being made captain doesn't mean much, Kolo was the captain before him, doesn't been Kolo is the worlds best player.

Vincent Kompany is 100 times the man Herman is.

@Tevez City are you one of his kids or something, man the fuck up mate.
When Tevez signed I bet you were convinced, Tevez was The Man? Who knows what Kompany or a player like De Jong may do in time. Judge people by what they do, but also take into account why they did that. I don't know why Tevez did the unthinkable and refused to play football in a great game. That's bonkers, but there must be a reason. and it might be that mancini and Tevez can reach an agreement. If so, that is what I hope for.

Maybe that is unlikely, and I am allowing my desire to turn the clock back when tevez was a hero to over rule my head. But I am as big a blue as you. I just don't like writing a City player off without knowing what happened, and I don't think i ever will. if the manager has had enough, then fair enough. He lives and dies by his decisions.
"Without knowing what happened" ffs. Do you not have eyes in your head.
 
Carlos Tevez faces record fine after Manchester City find him guilty

• Club says player has a breach-of-contract case to answer
• Argentinian indicates he will challenge the allegations

Daniel Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 12 October 2011 23.01 BST
Article history

Manchester City's dispute with Carlos Tevez is threatening to run until Christmas after the club's initial findings found him guilty of refusing to play against Bayern Munich, only for the player to indicate he would fight the allegation as far as possible and demand an apology from Roberto Mancini.

Tevez has told City he is sticking to his story that it was a "misunderstanding" and that he wants Mancini to retract his allegations and apologise for the damage to his reputation. City have refused point blank and are trying to convene a disciplinary hearing before the weekend on the grounds that Tevez has "a case to answer of alleged breaches of contract".

The striker will be informed at that meeting that not one of the players or coaches who have been interviewed as part of City's internal investigation has substantiated his claims about what happened in the Allianz Arena two weeks ago. On the contrary, every single statement has supported Mancini's case that the striker refused to go on as a second-half substitute, with City losing 2-0.

The club have already contacted the players' union, the Professional Footballers Association, to give it advance notice they want to invoke a punishment of a scale that, under guidelines introduced in 2005, will need the organisation's approval. This is likely to take the form of an additional four-week suspension to add to the fortnight Tevez has already served, plus a fine of six weeks' wages. Tevez's weekly salary of £250,000 would make it the largest a footballer in Britain has ever received. The striker intends to lodge an immediate appeal, to be held internally, and, if the case against him is upheld, he will take the matter to a second appeal via a specially convened panel organised by the Premier League. The potential delays, with legal representatives on both sides, mean it may not be until the end of the year before the process is finished.

In the meantime Tevez has been freed to resume training and will report for duty on Thursday in the belief that he will be allowed to rejoin Mancini's first-team squad. Instead Mancini plans to isolate the Argentinian who lifted the FA Cup in May. Tevez will have to train alone or with the youth-team players. This could potentially create problems should he decide to pursue a case of constructive dismissal but the animosity between player and manager has been exacerbated by Tevez's insistence on his return from Buenos Aires that Mancini owes him an apology. In return Tevez was willing to accept he had refused at one point to warm up and to issue an apology of his own. Mancini refused and will not budge.

The club believe there is irrefutable evidence against Tevez from not just the witness statements but also his TV interview directly after the match, when he admitted not being in the right frame of mind to play.

The disciplinary hearing will be chaired by a senior club official, possibly the football administrator, Brian Marwood, or the acting chief executive, John MacBeath, and will go ahead next week if it cannot be arranged in the next 48 hours.

Tevez will be informed the initial review, conducted by City's HR and legal departments, did not accept his explanation and that it constituted gross misconduct. City have decided cancelling Tevez's contract would be excessive – a ruling the PFA agrees with - but the latest events indicate he has no chance of playing for the club before being made available in the January transfer window.

The Tevez saga comes at a bad time for Mancini, however, with Sergio Agüero almost certainly out of Saturday's game at home to Aston Villa. Agüero is hoping to return from a groin injury against Villarreal on Tuesday, though the diagnosis on Mario Balotelli is better and the back issues that forced him to withdraw from international duty with Italy will not keep him out against Villa.
 

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