Cole Palmer

domalino said:
Obviously?! We (fans and the club) judge 99% of players on their performances for other clubs so I’m not sure how this is the gotcha you think?

We didn’t sign Doku, Nunes, Gvardiol etc on performances for City did we?
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But the point of my post was that Palmer's performances at City didn't indicate he was going to become someone capable of producing a 40 G/A season.
 
If the plan was always for Savinho and Bobb to be on the RW with foden as a CAM…. Makes our decision to sell him ever more baffling, as he pretty much would’ve been the starting winger on that side.
 
domalino said:
He stayed and fought for 3 seasons hanging around the first team, going into his 4th season “in” the first team he wanted to know he was gonna play regularly or go on loan. I can’t understand how City fans are convincing themselves that was unreasonable? McAtee did the same last season, insisted on going on loan to play and the club let him.

If the club and fans expect 18 year olds as good as Palmer to hang around on the promise of a couple of league cup games a season while we buy first team players in their position until they’re 22 then 90% of them will leave. Given only the best 2/3 of each year group are even good enough to be around the first team like that, we’re gonna get an academy graduate come through every 5 years at best.

When Palmer left I said it would be a very expensive mistake for the club but it would be worth it if they learned their lesson because we’ve got a lot of kids 15 and up who have as much talent but likely won’t stick around for years and years to get their chance.

Pep has a tendency to underrate academy players without experience, but he also doesn’t want them on loan, which is putting them in a catch 22. Whether it’s with Pep or after he’s gone, the club needs to find a better way of transitioning players from the academy to the first team if they want a core of academy grown players in the team as they’ve repeatedly said they do because it won’t happen with the current rate of one kid coming through every 5 years or so.
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Tbf…I’m not entirely sure the sale of Cole is on Pep.

I’m sure i read somewhere maybe it was from Tolm that the majority of the coaching staff included Pep wanted Cole to stay.

However, it was a financial decision most likely directed by Soriano to cash in when Chelsea offered the dosh. Think Pep was simply reiterating what was relayed to him that Cole either stays or gets sold since the board weren’t happy to loan him out.

I agree with others on here Cole didn’t really grab his first team opportunities like Foden did.

I do remember him having a great game against Swindon Town & outshining Grealish’s debut at the Community Shield a few years ago. Was at the Brentford game during our Treble winning season where he was non-existent & really was a game he should have taken by the scruff of the neck.

Before the move he was a talented kid with a few nice touches but I don’t even think Chelsea could predict his trajectory since the move. It’s like he’s transformed from a boy to a man.

Watching his interviews right from his EDS it’s obvious he’s just a kid that’s wants to play football wherever & was reportly willing to go on loan before Chelsea stepped in since he wasn’t getting enough game time in his mind from City which is fair assessment.

I wish him well & I do think City could have done more to keep him as I know most fans would have loved to see both Foden & Palmer local lads tearing it up for City in the same team. But it wasn’t meant to be & perhaps the club now are paying closer attention to Rico, McAtee & Bobb to ensure mistakes are learnt from the past & less reluctant to cash in on potential future stars.
 
He looks good at the moment, but i'd like to see him do it against top teams which I dont think he has yet. Chelsea go to anfield in a few weeks. Lets see how he gets on there (and i will be rooting for him to bury the m-fuckers)
 
Easily a top 3 player in the world, arguably even EPL's best player.

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He's performing so well. I'm delighted for him but it's quite painful, isn't it.

I think he was very close to performing at this level for us. It's fine for young players to be inconsistent. But he got goals playing off the right, he looked good when he played. And that was just as a fan - Pep and the coaching staff will have seen what he can do in training every week. It did feel incredibly short term to let him go, even if you couldn't have been sure he'd have played as well and Chelsea as he has.
 
It is rare that players leave City and go on to better themselves. They may have good careers but this is a one off with Palmer. Hindsight is wonderful, if he stayed would he have got central minutes last year with KDB out? Probably not as Foden would have been given that chance. If he stayed would he have performed for us the way he has done for them? I don't think he would of. He would have played wide, in a disciplined role without the freedom to lose the ball. He has all the freedom he wants at Chelsea and he is flourishing. Fair play to the lad, Chelsea don't play against low blocks every week, he has the space to express himself. The way we play, the slow build ups, letting every man get back for them before we try to penetrate just would not have suited him. That's why in the games he played for us over the years, we never saw this level from him. It is painful but lets not forget the fucker is a rag too!
 
bobom said:
He's performing so well. I'm delighted for him but it's quite painful, isn't it.

I think he was very close to performing at this level for us. It's fine for young players to be inconsistent. But he got goals playing off the right, he looked good when he played. And that was just as a fan - Pep and the coaching staff will have seen what he can do in training every week. It did feel incredibly short term to let him go, even if you couldn't have been sure he'd have played as well and Chelsea as he has.
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He didn't look good. He played the games when the title was wrapped up and he was average at best. The season he left he came on and scored a great goal against Arsenal and looked good in the super cup final. He was nowhere near this level we are watching now. Nowhere near.
 
All hindsight. The lad has developed into a fine player, I get that but like one bluemooner has just stated, was he showing in the treble season that he should have been starting games, no he wasn't and I pretty sure that if he had been picked over Bernie, Kdb, or Gundo or even Grealish, there would have been uproar on here. City and every blue that I know thought nearly 50 million quid for the lad was a very good deal. Like I said hindsight is a wonderful thing.
 
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