Cole Palmer

It's easy to say in hindsight, but it's looking like Pep dropped a right clanger selling Cole Palmer .... to think that we had this player and never really gave him the game time he wanted is criminal, he looks absolute class now ..... if Chelsea was playing at the Etihad tomorrow, he's the one Chelsea player that you wouldn't want featuring in the game, the guy is looking absolute dynamite .... that long range goal he scored for them against Brighton at Stamford Bridge last weekend was stunning!
 
He's still unproven, and I have no idea why people are hyping him up. I keep hearing pundits talking about how he can be considered as the best in the EPL, what complete nonsense. He had 42 goal contributions in the EPL since the start of last season? well big whoop.. he's playing for Chelsea surrounded by average players so of course he will look good, and almost all his goals come from penalties.

He's still unproven in the big games, he hasn't played in the champions league. Who cares if he scored in the final at euros, playing for country is different than playing for club. Also his hattrick against man utd doesn't mean much as they are no where near to be considered a top team.

There's a reason why Southgate didn't start him in the Euros, it's because Palmer is still unproven, sure he might be good in a few years, but right now it's just pure hype. Pep made the right move by getting rid of him and not sending him out on loan like he wanted. City will continue winning titles without Palmer.

Sure Palmer is a good player, but is he an elite player? The answer is no. If he was an elite player then Pep wouldn't have sold him. I wish people would stop crying about Palmer and move on.
 
It is rare that players leave City and go on to better themselves. They may have good careers but this is a one off with Palmer. Hindsight is wonderful, if he stayed would he have got central minutes last year with KDB out? Probably not as Foden would have been given that chance. If he stayed would he have performed for us the way he has done for them? I don't think he would have. He would have played wide, in a disciplined role without the freedom to lose the ball. He has all the freedom he wants at Chelsea and he is flourishing. Fair play to the lad, Chelsea don't play against low blocks every week, he has the space to express himself. The way we play, the slow build ups, letting every man get back for them before we try to penetrate just would not have suited him. That's why in the games he played for us over the years, we never saw this level from him. It is painful but lets not forget the fucker is a rag too!
Very well said and let’s not also rewrite history. The player wanted to leave because in his opinion he wasn’t given enough chances. Could we have done more for him to stay? Not sure tbh.

City just game off a treble and 4 in a row. Lauded as the best in class. A midfield with Foden, Kev, Rodri, Bernie. Who at the time was going to be left out?

I am sad he is gone and we lost a gem but and it’s a big but palmer wanted to go. We got good money. Doku came in and he is not as good atm. Will that change? Don’t know.

Truth is only Pep and palmer know when it changed. Would he have thrived in our set up? Probably not.

It hurts to lose such a talented player but due to the timing and the players desire and the other issues mentioned it just happened.

Chavs gain and our loss going forward. I still dont think at the time the decision was made he would have started before the players mentioned.

Hindsight is great but irrelevant.

Mistakes do happen, no one is perfect.
 
It's easy to say in hindsight, but it's looking like Pep dropped a right clanger selling Cole Palmer .... to think that we had this player and never really gave him the game time he wanted is criminal, he looks absolute class now ..... if Chelsea was playing at the Etihad tomorrow, he's the one Chelsea player that you wouldn't want featuring in the game, the guy is looking absolute dynamite .... that long range goal he scored for them against Brighton at Stamford Bridge last weekend was stunning!
It has already started but you will see more and more players excelling in the prem that came through our academy. To come through our academy and be in and around our first team you have to be very good. Not quite good enough for us but very good for other prem teams. Palmer being the best of that bunch.
 
It's a shame we let him go, he's hit the ground running at the chavs, if only we'd given him a run of games to see what he was capable of, we got what we thought was decent money for him, Doku better step up to the plate shortly to help ease the pain :)
 
He didn't look good. He played the games when the title was wrapped up and he was average at best. The season he left he came on and scored a great goal against Arsenal and looked good in the super cup final. He was nowhere near this level we are watching now. Nowhere near.
He was extremely promising, and was great in the community shield just before we sold, and you simply don't know how players will develop if they are given a chance to shine. I doubt anyone would have looked at Rico Lewis before he broke through and said he was at the level he now is either...
 
Easily a top 3 player in the world, arguably even EPL's best player.

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Carragher is a fucking simpleton.
 
He's a cracking player and I wish we could have found a way for him to stay.

But all of our academy players have to spend a long time training with the first team and seeing probably fewer minutes than they'd like as they learn our tactics and wait for their chance to shine. And nearly all of the players we've bought have had to spend significant stretches of time on the bench too.

The squad thrives not just on the quality of each individual player, but on the respect they have for each other to know that someone else may be more suited for a particular match than them, and that the solution to that is to support the players on the pitch and work even harder in training.

I'm not saying Palmer was disrespectful in wanting more playing time - it's perfectly understandable and he won't be the first player to have asked the question. But it would have been disrespectful to the squad of Pep to make any promises - all he can do is try to convince the player of the value of this approach.

I also think that the way the club has treated its young players (I'm thinking Foden, Lewis) has been sensible and will pay big dividends in future years. Those talented youngsters have been praised and encouraged but not immediately thrust into playing every game and carrying all our expectations on their backs as teenagers (I'm throwing a glance at united here but they're not the only ones to do it). A player who's promising in his late teens may develop into a superstar or he may stall and end up as simply a decent professional (or worse). Putting all those expectations on a kid, and making them play all the time with very little respite, is more likely to result in physical and mental fatigue than a thriving, hungry player. It looks like when these players are coming through, the message we send is "you're good, you belong in the first team - now the real work starts" and we don't let them rest on their laurels.

Palmer was only just 20 when he left us. If he'd stayed, he would have got more playing time if he'd kept working hard, but he wouldn't be the main man like he is at Chelsea. The way he's taken to that role suggests he's one of the rare young players (like a Bellingham) that really shines and grows when he's carrying a team on his shoulders. We could never have given him that due to the quality of our squad and the collaborative nature of how our team works.

I love to see our academy products doing well. There's a little regret that it's not with us, and I hope he leaves his shooting boots at home when we play Chelsea, but the move was the right thing for Cole to get the experience he wanted and the right thing for City to let a player go rather than risk upsetting the squad dynamics by making promises about playing time to a player who hadn't yet proved himself.

I'm proud of him and excited for his future. I hope he has a brilliant career, wins a load of personal accolades, maybe the odd Cup with Chelsea if we've already been knocked out, pushes Erling for the golden boot for years to come, and really delivers for England at a major tournament.
 
He's a cracking player and I wish we could have found a way for him to stay.

But all of our academy players have to spend a long time training with the first team and seeing probably fewer minutes than they'd like as they learn our tactics and wait for their chance to shine. And nearly all of the players we've bought have had to spend significant stretches of time on the bench too.

The squad thrives not just on the quality of each individual player, but on the respect they have for each other to know that someone else may be more suited for a particular match than them, and that the solution to that is to support the players on the pitch and work even harder in training.

I'm not saying Palmer was disrespectful in wanting more playing time - it's perfectly understandable and he won't be the first player to have asked the question. But it would have been disrespectful to the squad of Pep to make any promises - all he can do is try to convince the player of the value of this approach.

I also think that the way the club has treated its young players (I'm thinking Foden, Lewis) has been sensible and will pay big dividends in future years. Those talented youngsters have been praised and encouraged but not immediately thrust into playing every game and carrying all our expectations on their backs as teenagers (I'm throwing a glance at united here but they're not the only ones to do it). A player who's promising in his late teens may develop into a superstar or he may stall and end up as simply a decent professional (or worse). Putting all those expectations on a kid, and making them play all the time with very little respite, is more likely to result in physical and mental fatigue than a thriving, hungry player. It looks like when these players are coming through, the message we send is "you're good, you belong in the first team - now the real work starts" and we don't let them rest on their laurels.

Palmer was only just 20 when he left us. If he'd stayed, he would have got more playing time if he'd kept working hard, but he wouldn't be the main man like he is at Chelsea. The way he's taken to that role suggests he's one of the rare young players (like a Bellingham) that really shines and grows when he's carrying a team on his shoulders. We could never have given him that due to the quality of our squad and the collaborative nature of how our team works.

I love to see our academy products doing well. There's a little regret that it's not with us, and I hope he leaves his shooting boots at home when we play Chelsea, but the move was the right thing for Cole to get the experience he wanted and the right thing for City to let a player go rather than risk upsetting the squad dynamics by making promises about playing time to a player who hadn't yet proved himself.

I'm proud of him and excited for his future. I hope he has a brilliant career, wins a load of personal accolades, maybe the odd Cup with Chelsea if we've already been knocked out, pushes Erling for the golden boot for years to come, and really delivers for England at a major tournament.
Palmer is the one that got away. We don’t make many mistakes but this was a big one. There is no point us fans being in denial. At the moment Palmer is fantastic. He would walk into our team ahead of players like Doku or Savinho. We just have to accept it and move on.
 
It is rare that players leave City and go on to better themselves. They may have good careers but this is a one off with Palmer. Hindsight is wonderful, if he stayed would he have got central minutes last year with KDB out? Probably not as Foden would have been given that chance. If he stayed would he have performed for us the way he has done for them? I don't think he would of. He would have played wide, in a disciplined role without the freedom to lose the ball. He has all the freedom he wants at Chelsea and he is flourishing. Fair play to the lad, Chelsea don't play against low blocks every week, he has the space to express himself. The way we play, the slow build ups, letting every man get back for them before we try to penetrate just would not have suited him. That's why in the games he played for us over the years, we never saw this level from him. It is painful but lets not forget the fucker is a rag too!
was thinking this yesterday as i watched the game. There is no way that Cole would have had the freedom he gets at Chelsea with us. He wouldn't have got he chances either against our normal type of opponent. Time to just say well done and good luck for the future (other than against us).
 

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