Colin Shindler in the Mail

[hertsblue]

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say no more

 

[BlueMo']

Shindler's pissed.

 

[BELFAST_BLUE_BOY]

This article is pure romanticism without any clincial analysis.


Spot on, but is that what supporting a football team should be...do we support with our heart or our heads? Colin I feel is all heart....but maybe the relationship he had with CITY is like that of a first girlfriend - sweet distant memories that are being tarnished by our new arab owners...

I read the article and feel Colin has a poblem with football in general, not just CITY. We are just a reflection of what is happening in football and society in general - big business, money, greed.... as long as I enjoy going to support the team I dont really care who owns the club.....if you dont like that then go watch ice hockey.

Colin talks about being Jewish in the article and therefore opinions that he is 'anti arab' I feel are fair comments....need to balance censorship with peoples right to have an opinion. Totally agree racist comments not welcomed but we can have an opinion on his motives for this story.... and The Mail....what more do I need to say!

 

[1894]

I'm not even gonna read the full article. Times have changed - and he hasn't. Shame. Let's all get playing on cinder recreation grounds again, turning up in flat caps and smoking Park Drive. Then after the game we'll have fish & chips (oops fish-cake and chips) in a greasy wrapper and go home and listen to the wireless.

Get real Colin.

 

[i8therags]

If there's one thing I hate about our new found wealth, it's the apologetic "fan" journalists we have. Principally Shindler and Simon Hattenstone at The Guardian. Seems fairly transparent to me what they're doing; the written media on the whole are opposed to City's assault on the top four, and these sycophants are trying to keep onside of the press so deem fit to criticise the team they supposedly love.

But they don't speak for us, the man on the street supporter. Indeed, it's only really the aforementioned hacks who can accentuate the negatives in what's happening at City - every genuine fan I've spoken to feels quite differently.

What really riles me is just how out of touch they are, and the sense that they feel somehow superior to your regular fan. They seemed to revel in our ineptitude in the past, as they could be self deprecating and almost embarrassed about the fact they supported our club. "Plucky old City". Loveable, but essentially rubbish.

Suddenly we're in a position of power and bizarrely they don't like it. But it's a stance I can't comprehend. Surely if you were a true City fan you'd relish the fact that we are in a poisition to threaten the hegemony of the top four?! Every other City fan I know does.

"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."

this great Bob Dylan number sums it up.For me a succsesfull City isn;t worth money to him and his style of writing.Its ok to be romantic when your club is in a dark place.That bonds the fans.But we do that to keep the dream going and make it all the more sweeter when fortune lands.Its not done to line the pockets of writers.

 

[jimmy grummble]

Could not be bothered to read the full article, but its clear football has changed and he needs to move on.
I have this discussion alot with friends and collegues, at what point did it change, three main areas all around a similar time lead to the situaton we have now;

Taylor report 1990.
sky/premiership 1992.
Bosman ruling 1995.

There is no going back it is what it is, manure/chelski showed the way, we are simply following, how dare a fellow blue get on our backs about the generous owners that have come in and given us hope!!!
Yes when the party is over there will be one hell of a hangover but I am sure it will be worth it.
What I dont get is the owners are using their own money, not debt to finance this so wheres the problem, its all earned, its theirs, does anyone tell Mr Schindler how to spend his money??? No, so do one mate and let us and our new owners have the fun we deserve, if you cant enjoy this then you are a sad, sorry man.
Go and write a book about how the glazers destroyed the club you love to hate!

 

[Petetheblu]

Sure we've had our tits done and our teeth whitened, but a fan is a fan and Colin is completely out of touch....Go on Colin give those tities a quick sqeeze, you never know you might like them!!!!

 

[1_barry_conlon]

Bearing in mind he now thinks 'we're rotten to the core' i take it he'll be not doing anymore of his feeble books with ourselves as the subject matter? Now that would be a relief as they are just a vehice for him to another rant at us. We might now be a bit different than what he watched in his misty blue spectacles in the 60's but by christ he's made a f'kin decent living out of us. And does anybody else not think it is a sly dig at the arab ownership, even though he's played his 'i'm not a racist' card with his musings of Bert Trautman. He's like the racist who starts the conversation with the 'i've got many black friends but....' line. Just a thought!

 

[bowdonblue]

I can't f*cking stand this type of "it was better in the old days" shite - pisses me right off.

I am 39 and have seen mostly disappointment and frustration since I started going to the games at the age of 14 - so anyone who tries to persuade me that it would be better to carry on like that for the next 30 years rather than take a fast track to success can fuck right off as far as I am concerned.

Apart from anything else ADUG have conducted themselves with class, integrity, patience and above all confidence. So if you want to leave Mr Schindler, please hurry up and do close the door on your way out.

 

[BCP]

I enjoyed his first three books,good reading and informative. His latest book on Allison and Mercer to me was a letdown , lacking content and full of bad language.A wonderful time in our history poorly fictionalised.
Schindler has to realise times change.Without our present highly responsible owners we would be in a terrible state.We have a lot to be thankful for.