Community Shield - Arsenal (N) | Sun 6th Aug - 16:00

[Blue Mist]

What are you talking about?

All I ever do is criticise fans who campaign to make fan’s life better?

Read your own post. 'Oh I never criticise....... and then moan its all slapdash no focus etc etc.
If a Blue hadnt stuck his head above the parapet this would still be a 5.30 kick off. Fans are trying to get people who only care about TV revenue to think about ordinary fans. Ceferin doesn't care as shown by his comments. The FA and Premier league don't as shown by their kick off times and it seems City don't by their lack of comment about anything and everything.

 

[Blue Mist]

To what?

Whether the light does actually go out.



Sorry just wanted to lighten the mood.

 

[Stewadda#]

To what?

If people have changed their mind now the time changed to 4pm.

 

[Stephen230]

Read your own post. 'Oh I never criticise....... and then moan its all slapdash no focus etc etc.
If a Blue hadnt stuck his head above the parapet this would still be a 5.30 kick off. Fans are trying to get people who only care about TV revenue to think about ordinary fans. Ceferin doesn't care as shown by his comments. The FA and Premier league don't as shown by their kick off times and it seems City don't by their lack of comment about anything and everything.

You can make constructive suggestions without moaning or criticising.

You don’t seem to have addressed the main point of my post though. Which was why this game? We’ve had 30 years of been fucked about by TV, without a boycott. So why a weekend game, whilst maybe at a time that doesn’t suit most people, is still doable on a day trip.

Surely a long distance Monday night away game would make more sense? It would also be far more noticeable if effective.

 

[Blue Mist]

You can make constructive suggestions without moaning or criticising.

You don’t seem to have addressed the main point of my post though. Which was why this game? We’ve had 30 years of been fucked about by TV, without a boycott. So why a weekend game, whilst maybe at a time that doesn’t suit most people, is still doable on a day trip.

Surely a long distance Monday night away game would make more sense? It would also be far more noticeable if effective.

Why this game ? Simple.
There are no PL games so maximum publicity.
It is a show piece event so again max publicity.
Everything about the game itself is wrong, location, time and even the day.
To me the way they gave so little thought to fans is the reason. They don't care about us the lifeblood of football.
This is a protest about PL kick offs on a Monday/Friday night, 200 miles away. Moving a game with minimal notice because it clashes with something else. Being lied to, being shit on, being stuck on a bus for 2 hours. Everything. It is an ideal time to protest. Pep will play the kids and it will be treated as a friendly.
Yes it could be better organised but credit to Burton and others. They have done something I didn't do.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

You can make constructive suggestions without moaning or criticising.

You don’t seem to have addressed the main point of my post though. Which was why this game? We’ve had 30 years of been fucked about by TV, without a boycott. So why a weekend game, whilst maybe at a time that doesn’t suit most people, is still doable on a day trip.

Surely a long distance Monday night away game would make more sense? It would also be far more noticeable if effective.

Why this game?
I personally don't think we can complain too much about Sky games being messed around / Monday nights etc.
The PL clubs jumped into bed with the devil so we should expect to get a red hot poker up the arse regularly in return for £100 million plus every season.

So yes this game because it is a stand alone game set to be broadcast by ITV and given a ridiculous scheduling for one set of fans 200 miles away on a Sunday on a day with no other clashes.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

The origins of the issue and boycott suggestion were the KO time. Some were against the location, some were against the day but there was no concensus on the latter two and no measure of how many are actually bothered by the location and day, because everyone always knew it was going to be at Wembley . Unless there is an objective everyone agrees on,and now the time has changed there isn’t, there is no mandate for any organised demonstration.
It isn’t a job for 1894 or Bluemoon without anyone undertaking some kind of match going fan survey of opinion.

Pendant !!

 

[Blue Mist]

@Stephen230 in addition to my previous post, why this game...
You have previously stated you regularly go to away matches. I wonder what your thoughts are regarding the Club World Cup in the U S of A. When is enough ergh enough Globalisation of our game might on one hand fund it but on the other, destroy it, certainly for us match going fans.

 

[JGL07]

The origins of the issue and boycott suggestion were the KO time. Some were against the location, some were against the day but there was no concensus on the latter two and no measure of how many are actually bothered by the location and day, because everyone always knew it was going to be at Wembley . Unless there is an objective everyone agrees on,and now the time has changed there isn’t, there is no mandate for any organised demonstration.
It isn’t a job for 1894 or Bluemoon without anyone undertaking some kind of match going fan survey of opinion.

What do we want?

We can‘t agree.

When do we want it?

At some unspecified date in the future.

 

[Stephen230]

@Stephen230 in addition to my previous post, why this game...
You have previously stated you regularly go to away matches. I wonder what your thoughts are regarding the Club World Cup in the U S of A. When is enough ergh enough Globalisation of our game might on one hand fund it but on the other, destroy it, certainly for us match going fans.

As a competition, in theory it at least serves a purpose. The winners of each continents major cup competition, to decide the champions of the world. Makes more sense than the Super Cup at least. Which is on a par with if the winners of the Premier League played the winners of the Championship, to decide I’m not sure what.

It hasn’t really captured the imagination though has it? In fact I think the last time I watched even a minute of it was in its previous guise, The Intercontinental Cup, when Liverpool played Flamengo in the early 80s.

As for the new 32 team thing in two years. It’ll be something to watch in the summer of non major competition years I suppose. But not sure how interested I’ll be if City aren’t in it.