Complaint to BBC regarding Pete the Badge

It does appear there is an all out war on our club by the media which is getting worse due to our team who are there to fight back against stuff like this appearing to be doing bugger all. I have no idea if this is a mandate, do nothing, say nothing and it will get better, but it isn't working.

The club lacks leadership and a spokesperson and it has done since Gary Cook was fired. Our chairman is invisible and does a once year address to the fans. We can all see what is going on here and if the clubs aim is to build a global fan base then they better get their finger out as we are being sniped at and sidelined/damaged from all directions. We even had the rags on the champions league highlights for fucks sake! Oh and in case you missed it they also showed their highlights again last night, the night they SHOULD have been on.

It shouldn't be up to the fans to have to protest and complain the club needs to be doing more and getting the message out there. As for the programme last night surely some of the shit they came out with is libellous?
 
paulchapo said:
It does appear there is an all out war on our club by the media which is getting worse due to our team who are there to fight back against stuff like this appearing to be doing bugger all. I have no idea if this is a mandate, do nothing, say nothing and it will get better, but it isn't working.

The club lacks leadership and a spokesperson and it has done since Gary Cook was fired. Our chairman is invisible and does a once year address to the fans. We can all see what is going on here and if the clubs aim is to build a global fan base then they better get their finger out as we are being sniped at and sidelined/damaged from all directions. We even had the rags on the champions league highlights for fucks sake! Oh and in case you missed it they also showed their highlights again last night, the night they SHOULD have been on.

It shouldn't be up to the fans to have to protest and complain the club needs to be doing more and getting the message out there. As for the programme last night surely some of the shit they came out with is libellous?
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And if so, is a very good reason for City to take action against the twats !
 
Everyone who has sent there email complaints to the bbc should send them to city as well pointing out why they've put the complaint in to the bbc and what are they doing about it.
 
waspish said:
Everyone who has sent there email complaints to the bbc should send them to city as well pointing out why they've put the complaint in to the bbc and what are they doing about it.
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Yes put City on CC so they see that we are upset. Maybe this will help motivating them to react.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Great post and saves me responding as you've nailed the issue. I'd already drafted an email to the Head of Sport before the Swansea game, detailing various incidents. But the two on that day, plus the shameless plugging of a rag commercial partner, finally made me hit the 'Send' button.
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A good friend of mine, Simon Hill (Warrington lad and lifelong Blue), used to commentate for Five Live, when the sports dept was based in London. He loved the job, as any football fan would, but his love for City he felt actually hindered his BBC career. Unbelievable that your childhood team should in any way affect anyone's career prospects, but it's the BBC we're talking about. He decided to take the plunge with Fox Sports in Oz, which in no small way was down to the London bias of the sports dept. When we discussed the Londoncentric football coverage he told me that most employees were actually Gooners, Chelsea or Liverpool fans and it came across in the coverage. City were a laughing stock and were always the butt of the luvvys jokes (but Alan Green hated us, even then). There's no doubt that the move to Media City (surprised its not been renamed yet) has evolved to mostly Rag employees and it therefore shows in the coverage.

Unfortunately, the BBC haven't the balls or inclination to address the issue, unless the fight is taken to them.

So, keep fighting the good fight PB, and keep pressing that "send" button..
 
And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:
I’ve looked into this issue again with my colleagues at BBC Sport and after further investigation we have found that the picture which was sourced from the Press Association had the name “Bertie” added in error without the due diligence we would normally expect from any level of BBC journalism and output following the name appearing on Twitter underneath the picture from the BBC Sport account. Originally, our editor thought that ‘Bertie’ came from our picture source.


After internal discussions, we are satisfied that there was no malice intended towards the individual pictured, or to City fans in general. We accept that this was a sloppy error and fell well below the journalistic standards the audience rightly expects from the BBC.

We apologise again for any offence caused.

If you would like to take your complaint further, you can contact Stage 2 of the complaints process, the BBC's Editorial Complaints Unit, within 20 working days, and they will carry out an independent investigation. You can email them at: ecu@bbc.co.uk , or alternatively write to them at the following address:


Editorial Complaints Unit

Broadcast Centre

BC2 B4

201 Wood Lane

London
W12 7TP


Should you choose to escalate your complaint we would ask that you include the reference number provided above in your correspondence.

Kind regards

Katherine Tsang

Deputy Complaints Manager
BBC Audience Services
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Sounds legit. Anyone can mistype 'City fan' as 'Bertie'. I do it all the time.

Too fucking right I'll be escalating that Katherine, particularly after you told me a complete pack of lies in the first place.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:

Sounds legit. Anyone can mistype 'City fan' as 'Bertie'. I do it all the time.

Too fucking right I'll be escalating that Katherine, particularly after you told me a complete pack of lies in the first place.
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Lying condescending bastards! It didn't appear with the original picture as many have said, it was added afterwards. We need to take this fight to media City, outside protests, banners etcetera.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:

Sounds legit. Anyone can mistype 'City fan' as 'Bertie'. I do it all the time.

Too fucking right I'll be escalating that Katherine, particularly after you told me a complete pack of lies in the first place.
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Prestwich_Blue said:
And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:

Sounds legit. Anyone can mistype 'City fan' as 'Bertie'. I do it all the time.

Too fucking right I'll be escalating that Katherine, particularly after you told me a complete pack of lies in the first place.
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Just received the word for word same response. Still not answered my questions with regards safeguarding vulnerable individuals and quite clearly they lied at the outset about where 'Bertie' originated from. Yes it will be taken further Katherine.
 
No reply at all to my complaint yet.

EDIT...just checked email.

This was BBC reply:

Thanks for getting in touch with us.I’ve looked into this issue with my colleagues at BBC Sport and after further investigation we have found that the picture which was sourced from the Press Association had the name “Bertie” added in error without the due diligence we would normally expect from any level of BBC journalism and output following the name appearing on Twitter underneath the picture from the BBC Sport account. Originally, our editor thought that ‘Bertie’ came from our picture source.



After internal discussions, we are satisfied that there was no malice intended towards the individual pictured, or to City fans in general.

We accept that this was a sloppy error and fell well below the journalistic standards the audience rightly expects from the BBC.


We apologise again for any offence caused.


Kind regards

Katherine Tsang

Deputy Complaints ManagerBBC Audience Services



http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:

Sounds legit. Anyone can mistype 'City fan' as 'Bertie'. I do it all the time.

Too fucking right I'll be escalating that Katherine, particularly after you told me a complete pack of lies in the first place.
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Make sure to attach the original pack of lies to the escalated complaint.
 
The BBC as a company should be destroyed for the secrets they had kept hidden for 40 years. While I am saddened with the response regarding Pete the Badge not surprised either. Couldn't careless if they suffered the same fate as other established companies and wouldn't watch or listen to their programmes and visit their website even if they paid me. The BBC have made their bed and they should lie in it.
 
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They are like the FA, an outdated bloated pompous organisation, full of their own piss and self importance, staffed by privileged wealthy shysters who have never had to struggle in their pampered lives. As such they look down on the common working class football oinks and think they can smooth everything over with their condescending lying letters. Guess what.....you can't!!
 
I too have received the same response and will take to the next level including referencing the BBC article Gary James posted.

Why use the term Bertie if no offence was intended? Just why?

I'll take this as far as I can until they admit it the liars. Who are they protecting?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:


@prestwich blue , perhaps start your response to M/s Tsang :-

" Dear Katherine , you lying bitch " later going on to apologise and blaming an uncontrollable glitch on your keyboard as the source of the offensive addition ?

That way both your responses would be on an equal footing and as as genuine as each other in their degree of sincerity at the outset .

These arrogant twats really plumb the depths and have no conscience whatsoever. I would love to see this corrupt organisation brought to heel.
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Prestwich_Blue said:
And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:

Sounds legit. Anyone can mistype 'City fan' as 'Bertie'. I do it all the time.

Too fucking right I'll be escalating that Katherine, particularly after you told me a complete pack of lies in the first place.
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Dear Katherine
After your further investigation please can we have the name of the person that added the name Bertie. If all the male names he could have chosen we would like to ask him why that name. Apart from Bert off Sesame Street and of course Trautmam I am struggling to think of any other Berts let alone Bertie... Liars the lot of them
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And we have a response to my escalation of the Pete the Badge complaint. Make sure you're sitting down:

Sounds legit. Anyone can mistype 'City fan' as 'Bertie'. I do it all the time.

Too fucking right I'll be escalating that Katherine, particularly after you told me a complete pack of lies in the first place.
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Well done pb you tenacious fucker! Don't give up on this. Wouldn't like you hassling me.
 
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