Considering becoming a vegetarian

But there are already many examples of the overbreeding. Like a local one to Northern England and Scotland streams, with crayfish. We need to start eating those little buggers because they’re decimating our streams. Awareness should be raised that this is happening so we can get them eaten and allow the streams to thrive again.

Also you can go hunting deer in Scotland. This is allowed to happen because if they were just allowed to run of their own accord, because they have no predictors in Britain and Britain is only small, they’d either over graze leaving grasses bare and starve; or they’d spread disease through too many numbers. So we can hunt them to control the numbers. And venison is very tasty.

Obviously there will be lots of information that’s true from both sides of the coin, and some that aren’t. I’m certain that some part of the reason why a lot of stories about animal foodstuffs being bad for us is because it’s becoming harder to feed the meat eaters of 7.7bn humans, so other ways to eat are being emphasised more to sway people away from meat... but some of t will be made up, just like there will be in pro-meat research.
They’re interesting points. Overpopulation isn’t something I can claim real knowledge on. if overpopulation is an issue and culling’s truly are a necessity for the sake of the environment then that’s not something I can rightly stand against.
but, to me, that doesn’t then mean that it is ok to eat animals, nor does it mean that humans should be able justify killIng animals because they fancy something bloody to eat.They’re two different points. As a vegan I’m fine with this because It’s about causing as less harm as I can. I’d happily eat meat if it was a necessity for me to survive.
 
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I always find it ironic that we’ll consider the eastern cultures eating habits, dog, bat, etc gross, yes we see fuck all wrong with eating cows, pigs, sheep and chickens. Each to their own but why anyone thinks one animal is ‘better’ than another I find bizarre.
Because they are bred to be eaten,they are kept clean and lots of rules and regulations to make sure they are safe to eat,plucking animals out of the wild ,keeping species together and slaughter on the same tables with the same knife has given us a pandemic !
 
Because they are bred to be eaten,they are kept clean and lots of rules and regulations to make sure they are safe to eat,plucking animals out of the wild ,keeping species together and slaughter on the same tables with the same knife has given us a pandemic !
That’s not my point, it’s the fact they think one is better than the others.
As for your pandemic argument.....

Mad cows disease
Salmonella
Bird flu
Swine flu

I’d say we’ve dodged a bullet a couple of times ourselves.
 
Because they are bred to be eaten,they are kept clean and lots of rules and regulations to make sure they are safe to eat,plucking animals out of the wild ,keeping species together and slaughter on the same tables with the same knife has given us a pandemic !
There’s countless examples of unsanitary conditions in the west and England in terms of animal agriculture
 
Cheers for the reply, good post.

But while farm cattle may well be supplemented with B12; free roaming cold water fish are good sources of B12 and aren’t supplemented as they are free animals, fished, but still open water.
True but failing to address the main point: there should be no B12 argument when considering what constitutes a 'natural' human diet. Humans have always had plenty of B12 until relatively recently when our own actions have removed it from (all of) our diets.
 
There’s countless examples of unsanitary conditions in the west and England in terms of animal agriculture

It’s all about scale, if you compare anything in Europe to a Chinese Wet Market you get a very different level of unsanitary condition.

No one can tell me that eating a farmed cow is the same as eating a wild bat.
 

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