Cook, Marwood - Tevez : who's fault ?

a.woollam said:
Reading Tevez's 'statement' surely its obvious he didn't write it without help. I can't see him sitting down and writing that, it's much to articulate for your average player, even if it was translated from spanish.

As for 'certain executives... but not Mancini or the Sheihk' who the fuck else does he talk to...

Well he can hardly speak a word of english, so maybe Cook gave him a dirty look.
 
Ah, I see the crew have been eating their self deception breakfast again this morning. I sense a 'let's now face some sense of reality that the Tevez situation can no longer be brushed under the 'never boo a blue' carpet', HOWEVER, make sure at the same time we offer some beautiful postmodern style over substance spin, that all is not 'that' bad. A disaster? Oh no, Didsbury Dave is back with his honest, brutal truth talking 'winds me up' shit, he's really hitting us hard, a 'disaster', please Dave don't, I can't take this anymore, I have rags at work to argue with, don't rock the boat any further.

Of course it's a fucking disaster. We are where we are predominantly because of Tevez. His ratio is virtually one goal per game. We would struggle to find a player of his ilk, in terms of class, hunger, desire and work rate on the pitch anywhere in world football right now, not who we could afford, but who we could attract without already having established CL football.

Sssssh, Dave, don't tell the truth. It's much easier living a lie. Keeps me safe at night.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
SWP's back said:
PMSL - It is further proof that Hughes bought some right *****. That is all. This story must have made your weekend.

Stick it up your fucking arse you piece of shit and don't ever question my love for City again. It ruined my fucking weekend.

Amusing to see you adopt the "I never liked him anyway" revisionist stance though. I call it the "Bellamy".

Oh you do make me laugh. Many would report that but I think it's quite nice to see your true feelings (I won't cancel my username for a month as prtest either).

You are trying to use the Tevez saga to suit your agenda. Tevez has previous for this, Kia has previous for this.

As for me adopting a revisionist stance, total crap. I think Tevez is a great player. I would prefer him to have not done this but seeing as he has, I tend to think he is a bit of a ****. That is because I supprt City, not Tevez. You should try it.
 
Momentum said:
Although I doubt Cook was responsible I also have my doubts that Cook has no dealings with Tevez. Cooks last job was managing Michael Jordan for Nike and since day one it has looked like Cook was desperate to sign a big name for City. At the moment Tevez is the biggest name we have and I am sure Cook is all over him looking for ways to milk Tevez.

Cook however is an embarrasment to the club in my eyes. I see people claim he has increased our revenues but almost all the extra money City made last year was from increased sponsorship. Cook may have had some involvement but I am sure he was not the lead in negotiations with Etihad. I am also sure he has lost us as much as he increased revenues as he was probably resposible for signing Robinho. I realise he has experience in this field but with the high profile City have increasing sponsorship is not hard. Maybe he has excelled but he is still an egotistical big mouthed twat with no interest in football.

The latest statement from the club about Tevez also has Cooks bootprints all over it. If Tevez was not determined to leave before, Cook has certainly made sure of it with that statement. I am not saying I care if Tevez does stay any more but why reject his transfer request and then suggest he is too much of a child to make up his own mind about salary negotiations, contracts or whatever.

Personally I do not think Tevez cares about more money but the idea of living in Spain is probably the main reason. As for people on here blaming him for sleeping around I would suggest you get out more. If I was earning £10 million a year I suspect I might end up shagging around a bit. It is what many men do and especially those with a lot of money who can easily pull good looking birds.


You're not married then

If you were and loved your wife / partner you wouldn't do the dirty on them - any person who does that is a lowlife - Man or woman
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
SWP's back said:
PMSL - It is further proof that Hughes bought some right *****. That is all. This story must have made your weekend.

-- Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:22 am --




I fully agree. It can ONLY be about cash for two reasons:

i) Why try and extend and improve a contract 5 weeks ago if it is about anything else?

ii) A transfer to Spain would include a wage upgrade, signing on fee and more importantly and has been alluded to in the thread, the likely scenario of a huge bonus to Kia as Real need a new striker.

What does Dave suggest it to be? Tevez's own statement says it is not about Mancini.

I'm just thankful Tevez didn't lay any blame with Mancini because we'd have never heard the end of it


Me too, the media and other no marks would have had a field day.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Dyed Petya said:
Why? They may well not be, but this 'incident' says nothing about that one way or the other.


When your star player and captain hands a transfer request in, unless it's about cash, then there's not really any other way to read it.

And it hasn't happened in isolation, has it?

The team has been playing brilliantly and we have moved to second place in the league. That is "further proof" that things are very right behind the scenes.

Tevez is being a big girl's blouse. The club have bent over backwards to accommodate him and he has come out with this shit just when the team look like getting it together. If he wants to go then let him go. Let's go with players that want to play for the club.
 
gio's side step said:
Ah, I see the crew have been eating their self deception breakfast again this morning. I sense a 'let's now face some sense of reality that the Tevez situation can no longer be brushed under the 'never boo a blue' carpet', HOWEVER, make sure at the same time we offer some beautiful postmodern style over substance spin, that all is not 'that' bad. A disaster? Oh no, Didsbury Dave is back with his honest, brutal truth talking 'winds me up' shit, he's really hitting us hard, a 'disaster', please Dave don't, I can't take this anymore, I have rags at work to argue with, don't rock the boat any further.

Of course it's a fucking disaster. We are where we are predominantly because of Tevez. His ratio is virtually one goal per game. We would struggle to find a player of his ilk, in terms of class, hunger, desire and work rate on the pitch anywhere in world football right now, not who we could afford, but who we could attract without already having established CL football.

Sssssh, Dave, don't tell the truth. It's much easier living a lie. Keeps me safe at night.

You know what's odd, Gio?

I've spoken to 4 or 5 Blues this morning, season ticket holders, people who travel away, people who played the game and who know their football.

And every single one has said exactly the same. This is nothing but awful news for the club, just when things looked to be coming together at last.

Yet you come on here and they're all doing the Bellamy on him. I should have known.
 
The reason why Tevez originally wanted a move was is wifes fault, the only beef he can have with the exec's is refusing him a move or refusing him dough, either of which I'd not criticise Cookwood for. So why did his wife bugger off, was it because Tevez stuck his sausage in a third party clunge, if so is this all the fault of his penis. Either way a cock is to blame!
 
Oh hark at Mr Truth gio's side step, citing his impressive goal ratio as proof that we need him. His goal ratio is only that impressive because he's got a got team around him feeding him chances. I don't even know why this needs spelling out to some people but aren't the rags pretty much proof of this? They've gone through season after season having a main striker and then whenever they've lost them, a new person magically comes to the fore. Carroll has the same amount of goals at the minute, is he as good as Tevez? Bent scored more in the league last season, is he as good? It also might be worth seeing who his replacement is before swallowing cyanide.
 
I think it's pretty undeniable that this is not good for the club right now. It's hard to gauge what if any long term repercussions there may be for our season as it's hard to know if there's any truth to the suggestions that this isn't about money. If it is about money, I expect Carlos will sign a new contract in the coming weeks, and all will be well again.

There's a lot of anger and resentment towards the player and although it's seemingly justified, I do think we should keep a healthy distance from the whole ugly affair. Dealing with difficult players and agents is part and parcel of wanting to be a top club, and we as supporters need to be a little more philosophical about the whole thing.

Blaming Cook or "certain executives" does stink of sour grapes from Kia, and it shouldn't be forgotten that he also represents our former manager. Equally, I do think those executives need to have a long hard look at themselves. As a club we should never ever be in a position where a contract dispute, or a personal situation with a player, is so grossly misjudged that it implodes mid season in this manner.
 

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