You are believing the spin Milan have put on things. If they turn round and say "Yes, we accpeted an offer" then the fans would fuckin hate them for it. They make Kaka out to be the good guy, they are the good guys, it's win-win.warpig said:markbmcfc said:AntonDonJuan said:You don't work for one of Nike's biggest brands if you can't sort out business deals.
Cook is nobodies fool, he knew what he was doing and he knew how to conclude the deal. Milan bricked it when they saw the backlash from the fans and that's the bottom line.
Stop laying into Garry Cook when all you are doing is reading rumours off Sky Sports News and Milan's own TV channel.
Our owners are amongst the greatest businessmen in the world, they conclude multi billion pound deals each year, Milan are bent as fuck.
At last some sense.
I find it fucking hilarious all of you laying into Cook, thinking you know better or could have done better than him. He wasnt where he was with Nike by fluke, and neither are our owners, if they pulled out I trust they made the correct business decision. They know better than we so instead of throwing cheap shots at them, we need to get over the disappointment and move on.
i agree but you must admit that going into a meeting with kakas father to talk about "humanitarian" issues when all he wanted to do was talk about "fiscal" issues is a tad embarrassing
Matty said:You can construe that statement to mean any one of a million different things and you've gone for the one that makes City look cheap and shite. Why exactly?Chippy_boy said:How very very telling. Cook: "were we looking for the opportunity to joint venture in areas that would take this club on to a different platform"
As I thought. When it came to brass tacks, what we had in mind for our "offer" of £100m was in terms of some cash, some appearance fees, some marketing royalties etc etc. Not "here's £100m cheque".
So basically we bottled it, not Milan. (Rightly or wrongly, I don't want to get drawn into that.) But had we said "Here's a hundred million pound cheque", Kaka would now be ours. I was 100% certain of that prior to yesterday and I remain so now.
AntonDonJuan said:You are believing the spin Milan have put on things. If they turn round and say "Yes, we accpeted an offer" then the fans would fuckin hate them for it. They make Kaka out to be the good guy, they are the good guys, it's win-win.warpig said:markbmcfc said:AntonDonJuan said:You don't work for one of Nike's biggest brands if you can't sort out business deals.
Cook is nobodies fool, he knew what he was doing and he knew how to conclude the deal. Milan bricked it when they saw the backlash from the fans and that's the bottom line.
Stop laying into Garry Cook when all you are doing is reading rumours off Sky Sports News and Milan's own TV channel.
Our owners are amongst the greatest businessmen in the world, they conclude multi billion pound deals each year, Milan are bent as fuck.
At last some sense.
I find it fucking hilarious all of you laying into Cook, thinking you know better or could have done better than him. He wasnt where he was with Nike by fluke, and neither are our owners, if they pulled out I trust they made the correct business decision. They know better than we so instead of throwing cheap shots at them, we need to get over the disappointment and move on.
i agree but you must admit that going into a meeting with kakas father to talk about "humanitarian" issues when all he wanted to do was talk about "fiscal" issues is a tad embarrassing
Try sticking by our club, i believe Gary Cook more than the bent-as-fuck Berlusconi every day of the week
warpig said:markbmcfc said:AntonDonJuan said:You don't work for one of Nike's biggest brands if you can't sort out business deals.
Cook is nobodies fool, he knew what he was doing and he knew how to conclude the deal. Milan bricked it when they saw the backlash from the fans and that's the bottom line.
Stop laying into Garry Cook when all you are doing is reading rumours off Sky Sports News and Milan's own TV channel.
Our owners are amongst the greatest businessmen in the world, they conclude multi billion pound deals each year, Milan are bent as fuck.
At last some sense.
I find it fucking hilarious all of you laying into Cook, thinking you know better or could have done better than him. He wasnt where he was with Nike by fluke, and neither are our owners, if they pulled out I trust they made the correct business decision. They know better than we so instead of throwing cheap shots at them, we need to get over the disappointment and move on.
i agree but you must admit that going into a meeting with kakas father to talk about "humanitarian" issues when all he wanted to do was talk about "fiscal" issues is a tad embarrassing
AntonDonJuan said:You are believing the spin Milan have put on things. If they turn round and say "Yes, we accpeted an offer" then the fans would fuckin hate them for it. They make Kaka out to be the good guy, they are the good guys, it's win-win.warpig said:markbmcfc said:AntonDonJuan said:You don't work for one of Nike's biggest brands if you can't sort out business deals.
Cook is nobodies fool, he knew what he was doing and he knew how to conclude the deal. Milan bricked it when they saw the backlash from the fans and that's the bottom line.
Stop laying into Garry Cook when all you are doing is reading rumours off Sky Sports News and Milan's own TV channel.
Our owners are amongst the greatest businessmen in the world, they conclude multi billion pound deals each year, Milan are bent as fuck.
At last some sense.
I find it fucking hilarious all of you laying into Cook, thinking you know better or could have done better than him. He wasnt where he was with Nike by fluke, and neither are our owners, if they pulled out I trust they made the correct business decision. They know better than we so instead of throwing cheap shots at them, we need to get over the disappointment and move on.
i agree but you must admit that going into a meeting with kakas father to talk about "humanitarian" issues when all he wanted to do was talk about "fiscal" issues is a tad embarrassing
Try sticking by our club, i believe Gary Cook more than the bent-as-fuck Berlusconi every day of the week
TonyM said:twinkletoes said:"As we got through to the next stage there were questions that were asked that they then couldn't answer.
Does anyone know what that means?
Not the foggiest but it sounds great. To be honest I no longer care who's at blame or what the story was. I want to just circle he wagons, support cook and Hughes to the hilt and then later review what went on, lessons learned and actions o be taken. Now's the time to stand tough.
Chippy_boy said:How very very telling. Cook: "were we looking for the opportunity to joint venture in areas that would take this club on to a different platform"
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twinkletoes said:"As we got through to the next stage there were questions that were asked that they then couldn't answer.
Does anyone know what that means?
bluethai said:Here is more specific quotes from Cook:
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MANCHESTER, England (AP) - Manchester City accused AC Milan on Tuesday of reneging on an initial agreement to sell Kaka to the Premier League side.
Executive chairman Garry Cook sharply criticized the Serie A club, a day after leading City's delegation to Milan hoping to complete the world-record transfer of 100 million pounds ($147 million, ?111 million).
The proposal fell through Monday night with Milan and the Brazilian star announcing that he was staying in Italy.
"We had entered into a confidentiality agreement weeks ago,'' Cook said. "But what got in the way was the behavior of AC Milan and I think they bottled it (backed out).''
"We had gone through a three or four-stage process in which Milan made it quite clear Kaka was for sale and we made it clear we intended to bring him to Manchester City,'' Cook said. "As we got to the next stage there were questions they could not answer and I think the political and public pressure made them change their conditions.''
Cook met Monday with Kaka's father and chief adviser, Bosco Leite, for about two hours.
"His father said he was very interested in the project and we talked about humanitarian potential factors but when we got into discussions those issues took a back seat and financial demands came to the fore,'' Cook said.
Cook said City would now turn its attention to other potential signings.
"We'll continue on our journey but he (Kaka) won't be a part of it,'' Cook said. "Deals with the greatest players are more than complex.''
warpig said:Mark & Anton....
Cook also believes that money was more important to Kaka's representatives than the possibility of becoming a part of Manchester City's plans to be a major force in world football.
"The agenda we thought we were on was about Kaka coming on a journey with this club but at the end the only journey they were on was a fiscal one," he added.
"We'll continue on our journey but he won't be a part of it. Deals with the greatest players are more than complex.
"We got to talk to Kaka's father. His father said he was very interested in the project and we talked about humanitarian potential factors but when we got into discussions those issues took a back seat and financial demands came to the fore."
im sorry, but that is embarrassing. kaka to join city to be a part of the "project", do me a favour. it was only ever about the money!
mat said:warpig said:Mark & Anton....
Cook also believes that money was more important to Kaka's representatives than the possibility of becoming a part of Manchester City's plans to be a major force in world football.
"The agenda we thought we were on was about Kaka coming on a journey with this club but at the end the only journey they were on was a fiscal one," he added.
"We'll continue on our journey but he won't be a part of it. Deals with the greatest players are more than complex.
"We got to talk to Kaka's father. His father said he was very interested in the project and we talked about humanitarian potential factors but when we got into discussions those issues took a back seat and financial demands came to the fore."
im sorry, but that is embarrassing. kaka to join city to be a part of the "project", do me a favour. it was only ever about the money!
I don't believe that. The man worships god and his faith comes above everything else, if it was money he'd have been here last week.
AlexWilliamsGloves said:Didnt see another thread of this...sorry if a duplicate
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Executive Garry Cook has reaffirmed the Club’s stance over last night’s decision to walk away from any deal involving AC Milan midfielder Kaka.
Speaking this morning at the City of Manchester Stadium, Cook told us: “It’s a mixture of disappointment and some frustration too.
“I think the intention from AC Milan was clearly to sell their player and Manchester City’s intention was clearly to bring him to the football club.
“I think there was some political pressure and definitely media space that they engaged in. To be honest, I think they bottled it, simple as that.â€
“They live in a different space than we do as a football club and it’s been interesting to watch their behaviour.â€
Despite numerous media reports in Italy and throughout the country, Garry continued to set the record straight: “We never met the player, we only met the representatives, we never actually made him an offer on personal terms.
“So it’s very difficult to turn down something that you’ve not been offered.
“We’ve heard everything and there’s been a bit of mudslinging, but we’re going to choose not to get into that, our objective is that we’re building a football club for the long term.
“It would have been great to have had Kaka at this football club, the Premier League would have benefitted, football would have benefitted and we were willing to make that investment on rational terms. Unfortunately, the behaviour that they showed was not what we had expected nor had we anticipated.â€
Cook also cleared up reports surrounding the visit to Milan. He confirmed: “We’ve been to Milan four times and the delegation yesterday involved three lawyers that represent the legal counsel for Manchester City football club.
“It also involved a board member who had flown half way around the world from Abu Dhabi, myself and one other senior executive.
“We were confined to a room, with no food or drink, and we asked some questions of the football club and more importantly we asked some questions of the representatives of the player and they simple could not answer the questions.
“What they wanted to talk about was; ‘how much are you going to pay him?’We chose not to get into that and we didn’t make an offer to the player.
“Is he a great footballer? Yes. Does he represent all the values you would want to have as an ambassador of the sport global and were we looking for the opportunity to joint venture in areas that would take this club on to a different platform? Yes, but unfortunately the landscape changed and his representatives wanted to talk about how much we were going to pay him.
“Money was certainly the motive yesterday.â€
Pam said:Its gibberish. Why isn't anyone calling him on it?
vbr said:As I said it all sounds like saving face and more spin and bollocks from Cookie once more.