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[inbetween]

I did see the size of the thing they were standing next to and thought it might be a problem in most places. I have a first floor flat!

as @inbetween touches on, it'll need a lot of engineers and time to fit them. It has a place, but only as part of a national, very expensive, plan. I don't see much in the Commons to suggest that is more than a pipe dream.

Let's say it costs £5000 per installation and that has to be spread across 10 million homes, that's £50,000,000,000.... I don't even know what that number means (£50bn?) but what's been committed clearly isn't enough.

You can see why these things sound a good idea but in practice they're completely ridiculous.

I've just heard Boris say we will have zero emission flights but there is no such thing. Even electric cars don't emit nothing. Tesla's will soon be built in Germany and well that factory will emit something to power it and I don't know of any electric ships that can import them over here.

The biggest problem we have is coping with the fact that reducing consumption is the only way we can solve this problem. Having no car at all for example is 10000x better than having an electric car but has the government announced a massive investment in electrified cheap public transport? Nada.

 

[pirate]

From what I've read the subsidy (£450m) will only cover X amount of heat pump installations per year and it works out at around 90,000 per year max but there are 25 million homes in the UK.

At that rate they won't be done for at least 200 years.

thats true and it is a joke
but those 90,000 will benefit, its just that the government should be giving grants to 10 times that number if they were serious about impacting climate change

 

[inbetween]

thats true and it is a joke
but those 90,000 will benefit, its just that the government should be giving grants to 10 times that number if they were serious about impacting climate change

It probably isn't physically possible to do it quickly anyway but as always with this government at least they can rely on people to read but not to challenge.

To show how ridiculous it is, consider that they're spending half the cost of this subsidy on a new yacht for the Queen. They're also spending 100x that on a high speed rail project that no-one wants and no-one will use.

 

[mancity1]

thats true and it is a joke
but those 90,000 will benefit, its just that the government should be giving grants to 10 times that number if they were serious about impacting climate change

The sad thing is the UK according to fairly reliable data only emit around 1.0 per cent of the worlds co2.

Why go broke and ensure more people will freeze to death in the winter when if you shut down all man made co2 emitted in the UK will have no impact on the warming of the climate and that's not from me that's from the leading climate experts.

Everybody should just do their bit and say the richest 5 per cent of companies and 10 per cent of the population contribute to positive action in countries like those below without placing too many who live from wage to wage or government hand out to handout having to decide whether to feed the kids properly or keep the heating and lights on.

the issue of the planet is what to do with nations like Russia , India , China ( African nations in the future now that a vaccine for malaria will become available for children etc ) , Japan , Indonesia and the US not only today but over the next 40 years.

the doomsayers suggest its already too late.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

COP26. Where billionaires arrive in Glasgow in private jets and spend 2 weeks thinking up imaginative ways of getting people on minimum wage, to feel guilty, pay more tax and stop holidaying abroad, to save the climate

 

[MillionMilesAway]

From what I've read the subsidy (£450m) will only cover X amount of heat pump installations per year and it works out at around 90,000 per year max but there are 25 million homes in the UK.

At that rate they won't be done for at least 200 years.

It is only a replacement for gas/oil at the moment, so there are far fewer than that.

The BBC had some people in the field on just now answering questions, and the aim is to get to 600k/year by 2030, and that still sounds an awful lot. It was also said that the aim is partly to drive the heatpump business to improve/make itself cheaper by providing funding for it.

 

[BlueMoonday]

Nothing worse than upper and middle class tossers (who've done more harm to the planet than any of us) telling working families to cut down on emissions and do more for the planet.

How many helicopter rides has Prince William taken? He has more airlines than Father Christmas.

 

[BobKowalski]

Nothing worse than upper and middle class tossers (who've done more harm to the planet than any of us) telling working families to cut down on emissions and do more for the planet.

How many helicopter rides has Prince William taken? He has more airlines than Father Christmas.

Never quite understood that. Do you think middle class families don‘t work?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Headline - 80% of household roofs leak

Govt - we will subsidise the purchase of hooded jackets for everyone who needs one..........

Heat pump provision is to generate headlines and give the impression they are getting things done - just ignore the fact its inadequate. Insulation is what is needed - proper insulation. That and solar on every single new build.

 

[mancity1]

Never quite understood that. Do you think middle class families don‘t work?

Think it was on an economic scale of sorts where blue was singing from.

Many in agriculture , manufacturing and transport are not on the Shatner hit list to pass the Karman line Bob.

Yes we have tax scales based on income but green subsidies hit the poorest the most.

I get tired of the next king of England , elites , media , big banks telling the majority and high paid city dwellers etc virtue signalling on climate change , boring , ineffectual and does nothing for the environment nor did the many plane and chopper trips Sir David took around the world to narrate his work.

Charley Farley telling a reporter who used a gas guzzling car to interview him in his back yard that you could install 30 SMR's or have a wind farm installed that I run my 51 year old jag on wine FFS and only eat meat two days a week FFS.

If he was really a man of conviction he would find a way to stop breathing because that would do wonders for his co2 footprint.

the queen I hear has given up the plonk so lets hope she finds the secret to eternal life albeit she has even become more than apolitical in her formative years.