Coronavirus (2021) thread

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carlosthejackal said:
Variants have always been on the cards , the media love sensationalising everything, as I’ve said before vaccinations and science are the route out with enormous steps being made daily , no point in getting down about every snippet of news all it will do is send you mad . Things are getting better.
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I don't think you can say that I do any of this. Nor that I am unaware as to what is going on here.

The fact we have allowed these variants to take root and are still not effectively controlling our borders will mean this will drag on longer than it might have done.

And we are guessing as to how well the vaccines will respond to the rapid changes to combat it that our vaccines are forcing the virus to do. Nobody can know as viruses are unpredictable.

But unless and until we stop these new variants becoming endemic in the UK by more effective border controls this will become a long dance between humanity and the virus and tweaks to the vaccine and a ruinously expensive one.

We are not eradicating this virus now just by vaccinating the population. Way past there. We simply have to reach an equilibrium point where we can live with it long term with it being regarded much as we do many other diseases that are not killing so visibly every week.

The UK is well ahead in the vaccine race. We have a big chance now to win the battle in the medium term not the long term. But if we do this and at the same time toss away the edge we gain by letting the world and it's cat bring every new strain by coming here unfettered because we are a 'crossroads of the world' we will be in this dance of virus - vaccine - modified virus - modified vaccine - that will go on for some time.

We are not the Isle of Man or New Zealand and never can be. But unless and until we are more like them than an open barn door we will never be as successful as they will be in getting on top of this now rapidly mutating virus.

These are just realities we have to live with. And letting the new strains become endemic with people unconnected with travel from those places is not good news however you look at it.
 
Sky just reported a Cambridge University study questioning the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine after 21 days when administered as a single dose in those over 80. Anyone else seen that mentioned elsewhere?
 
mcfc_ms said:
Just got back from taking my gran for her vaccine. Quite emotional seeing all the elderly look so happy after having something as simple as a vaccine. A few younger disabled kids/adults there today too getting theirs too. All the staff and nurses there were fantastic and very positive
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At last. A ray of sunshine to warm todays proceedings.
 
Gabriel said:
Sky just reported a Cambridge University study questioning the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine after 21 days when administered as a single dose in those over 80. Anyone else seen that mentioned elsewhere?
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We will soon have a real world test of that with millions of people so we will know for sure I expect by March.
 

Second highest weekly number of deaths since pandemic began

A total of 8,422 deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 22 January mentioned COVID-19 on the death certificate, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

This is the second highest weekly number since the pandemic began.

The figure is up from 7,245 deaths in the week to 15 January.

Nearly half (45.1%) of all deaths registered in England and Wales in the week to 22 January mentioned COVID-19 on the death certificate - the highest proportion recorded during the pandemic

The ho!idays came at a very high price
 
Healdplace said:
We will soon have a real world test of that with millions of people so we will know for sure I expect by March.
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Yes, the South African variant has already been seen in Israel as well, so the next two months should be telling. It should also be possible to compare the effectiveness of the adopted strategies.
 
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