Coronavirus (2021) thread

[roubaixtuesday]

There is a trial by Oxford vaccine group in South Africa. You'd think they would know.

It would show up as lower efficacy. I don't think any more data has been approved for release by the data monitoring board since the emergence of the variant, so they won't know.

 

[kaz7]

It was done weeks ago (most of November), but it didn't really work.

Proper lockdown i mean, sage wanted it in sept , the tier system was not a bad idea in theory but there is far too many loop holes , we needed to be to!d like we were in march , as it is we are behind again and there has been hundreds if not thousands of needless deaths and people stuck with long covid

 

[BlueAnorak]

58,784 cases.
407 deaths.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I don’t disagree with lockdowns, what I disagree with is the introduction of rushed laws to curtail freedoms without proper discussion or thought. We may as well be a police state.

Sometimes speed of decision making is paramount. I am pleased that our FM does not shy away from making tough calls.

 

[Ban-jani]

Hello mate.
That indeed would be good news.
How recent is your info because there was a virus expert on the BBC this morning expressing some concern about the resistance of the SA strain to a vaccine. Not mega doom and gloom, just that more info and tests were needed.

Just read this from CNBC, someone shared it on Twitter, although it seems it was written this moaning too.

Vaccine effectiveness​

Questions have been raised over how the coronavirus vaccines will work against the new variants.
A number of experts have said they expect vaccines — such as those from Pfizer and BioNTech, and the Oxford University/AstraZeneca — to protect against the new strains.

The good news I’ve seen, is someone from Oxford University, who helped on the current one, said even if the current vaccine doesn’t work, they can amend it which should only take a month-6 weeks, to cope with mutations.

 

[BlueAnorak]

It would show up as lower efficacy. I don't think any more data has been approved for release by the data monitoring board since the emergence of the variant, so they won't know.

The South African trial was June - November.
If there is an issue it will show up with inoculated folks catching the new variant.

 

[Northernstorirs]

Genuine qustion, where are people catching the virus from and what are the ages?

I think it is mainly the work place and kid's bringing the virus home from school.

That said you can catch it in Supermarkets etc, all down to keeping your distance, wearing a mask and washing your hands.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

alcohol free beers ok?

they never are.

 

[kaz7]

You dont hear much about gloves but i have always worn single use ones , to the pharmacy etc , use sanitiser on them on the way in and out , right or wrong ? Any use or not ?

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Without wanting to get into an argument here, have you seen the amount of air traffic there is in the UK (and Europe) just now, it's virtually nil, and who knows how many people are on these planes ?

Under current tier 4, the rules say "People should not leave tier four areas or travel abroad, except for limited reasons (including work and education)", so work travel is allowed, and I've said it before in this (or the old) thread that there are thousand who work in the oil, gas, and chemical industries who do have to travel for work.

what about piers Morgan going to Carribean for a holiday in a tier 4 area like many of others .

I don’t give a shit what piers does , But ultimately my point is the same as March there is no point locking everyone down internally for external people to come in as they please .

we have got our border policy wrong throughout this pandemic thanks to our friends at the WHO.