Coronavirus (2021) thread

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My wedding is booked in for October this year. We have about 80 there during the day and originally about 120 at night. I still have a bit of hope that it might go ahead with something like 70 there day and night. Might be overly optimistic though.
I really hope it does for you, some days I'm optimistic about the future and others I'm terribly pessimistic. We have contemplated trying for later in the year but really can't be bothered having to try for a fourth time so might just play it safe and try for summer 2022.
 
Much as well like to slag off the BBC, it is helpful to follow their live Coronavirus news feed on the website to keep up with things ....... except that some days it just isn't there. It bugs me how they can't wait to use the giant "breaking news" banner at the most inappropriate times, but they can't get the basics right.

Looking at The Guardian news feed now, it seems that the PM is saying some interesting things about next week's roadmap. He says that they will be giving target dates where they can, but these will be "earliest possible dates" that may have to be put back depending on figures at the time - which is fair enough.

EDIT - And now a story on the BBC claims that the PM said that "The government's plan to move out of lockdown will be "cautious but irreversible", which is quite clearly NOT what was said (see the original item in The Guardian if you are interested). Do they employ clowns at the BBC News these days or do they just twist what was said deliberately?
 
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My wedding is booked in for October this year. We have about 80 there during the day and originally about 120 at night. I still have a bit of hope that it might go ahead with something like 70 there day and night. Might be overly optimistic though.

Johnson said back in Dec that with lateral flow testing and the vaccine we should see things back to normal come summer


Hadn't seen that, cheers. My rearranged one is in August this year. No idea if it'll go ahead, but that's reassuring. If last year is anything to go off, August looks a good month for relative safety too presuming a similar pattern could follow. Especially if you add vaccines/broader general immunity/better treatments etc. Got my fingers crossed!

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It's looking increasingly unlikely that herd immunity is a realistic aim.

Ro is the R number with normal behaviour and no immunity. The formula for the fraction needed to be immune to reach herd immunity is (Ro-1)/Ro

The original variant had an Ro of ~3 but the new variants are said to be ~50% more transmissible.

If R ~5 then the fraction needed to be immune is ~80%

The vaccine is unlikely to give "sterilising immunity" ie complete protection against transmission, is not 100% effective against disease either, and reduced effectiveness against variants has been reported for some variants. Given that we're also not going to be immunising children, then reaching a complete suppression of the virus through herd immunity doesn't seem likely.

However, it's still vital as many people as possible are vaccinated, not just to protect themselves, but also because even if we haven't reached formal herd immunity, outbreaks will be much easier to contain the closer we are to that limit. There seems to be a body of opinion that current immunity levels reached through prior infection and vaccinating have helped speed the reduction in cases in the current lockdown, and that level was probably something like 20% at the start rising to maybe 30% now and over 50% in the next couple of months.

It may be that we end up similar to the flu; there's an annual booster jab but still outbreaks through the winter, dying down in the summer but never completely going away.
I agree. That seems the most likely reason why things are happening as they are and where we will go in the future.

The bad news Covid will not go away just become increasingly less a factor in day to day life possibly needing annual jabs for the over 60s as with flu.

The good news we may really be in the last cycle of global shutdowns and relative normality will gradually return.

But there are still spanners that can be thrown in the works by this hard to predict virus.

The end game usually though is mutual accommodation not eradication. We have got too far for that ever to be likely now. But the virus will mutate into a form that works for it and we can live with and cope with too.
 
I’ve been taking vitamin D3 every day. Not because of some great cure for Covid, just because I only get sunlight once a day.
I have been taking it as I was a full time carer for 14 years and got out once a week when paid carers gave me a couple of hours off. But there is no way I was suddenly going to take about 10 times the recommended dose of any drug for unproven reasons. Instead being more house bound than usual I just doubled my dose.

As with you for the reason I was taking Vit D in the first place. Not Covid related.
 
Wales vaccination update:

784, 809 first doses - 13, 158 yesterday

5402 - second doses - 829 yesterday
 
Do hope my Dad gets a call for his second jab (Pfizer) soon. Been three/four weeks now so thought he might hear something. He seems rather casual about it all.
 
Outbreak in work, had a track n trace alert to self isolate but only for 5 days ??
Feel like shit today but how can i go for a test if i have to self isolate ?
 
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