Coronavirus (2021) thread

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ChicagoBlue said:
These all seem like staggeringly LOW NUMBERS given the population you’re talking about.
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They are because the vaccinations - which we are well ahead on - with pretty much all the most vulnerable doyble jabbed - have entirely changed the dynamics.

The wave in January saw only about 4 or 5 times as many cases as now but 100 times as many deaths and 30 times as many people in hospital and 30 times as many on ventilators.

This is because the vaccines have worked very well indeed. And almost no (well it is under 1 in 20) of todays cases are over 60 and 4 out of 5 are young who hardly ever get very sick.

So this is more a cases pandemic now than a heath care crisis. If numbers do not go out of control whilst w finish the vaccinations in next couple of months we SHOULD be fine.

We would be fully opening up now were it not for this highly infectious new variant. But happily it came late enough we had got well into the vaccination programme first. And we might just about get away with it.
 
Healdplace said:
They are because the vaccinations - which we are well ahead on - with pretty much all the most vulnerable doyble jabbed - have entirely changed the dynamics.

The wave in January saw only about 4 or 5 times as many cases as now but 100 times as many deaths and 20 times as many people in hospital and 30 times as many on ventilators.

This is because the vaccines have worked very well indeed. And almost no (well it is under 1 in 20) of todays cases are over 60 and 4 out of 5 are young who hardly ever get very sick.

So this is more a cases pandemic now than a heath care crisis. If numbers do not go out of control whilst w finish the vaccinations in next couple of months we SHOULD be fine.

We would be fully opening up no were it not for this highly infectious new variant. But happily it came late enough we had got well into the vaccination programme first.
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All sounds positive and sound.

Appears some people want numbers to be zero before anything good can happen, but we know that is impossible. The much bigger imperative is that IF you get it:

A) It is not in numbers that overwhelm the Medical System,

B) Doesn't lead to long term hospitalization,

C) Doesn’t lead to death!

(C) is the paramount concern because no vaccine can be 100% effective because of the variants.

Therein lies the concern in the States. We have not seen widespread cases of any of the variants, especially Delta, and Stares are starting to offer incentives to get vaccinated.

Ohio is doing a $1,000,000 vaccine lottery for adults and a 4 year College Scholarship for anyone under 18 for vaccine recipients. They just awarded the second prizes this week!

Other states are trying similar incentives, although Ohio’s “Who wants to be a Millionaire” has been the most successful so far!
 
Cases across the regions:


Change in last 24 hrs V seven days ago


SOUTH


East DOWN 110 to 317 V 340 - falls wk to wk

London DOWN 110 to 948 V 870 - better day here

South East DOWN 66 to 585 V 563

South West UP 16 to 400 V 215 - up here quite a bit still to highest score since last Winter.






MIDLANDS



East UP 32 to 384 V 244

West UP 67 to 540 V 370


Edging up here too




NORTH



North East UP 18 to 320 V 113 - new high and tripled over the week

Yorkshire UP 132 to 739 V 465 - up wk to wk



AND

NORTH WEST UP 341 to 2317 V 1755 - Big rise to highest numbers yet





Past weeks NW numbers are 1755 - 1752 - 1605 - 1673 - 1840 - 2112 - 1976 - 2317

Equivalent NW numbers a week earlier 1251 - 781 - 935 - 1038 - 780 - 1158 - 1643 - 1755

GM numbers in past week 945 - 932 - 827 - 825 - 950 - 1062 - 984 - 1191

As you see the gap between GM and NW totals at 1126 today is the biggest yet and it has been increasing from 810 at start of past week

This means other parts of the NW hae risen whilst numbers in GM have risen less proportionately to rest of NW.
 
Full GM details:


Total cases 1191- Up 207 on Yesterday - from NW rise of 341.

Wk to wk up 246 of the NW rise of 562- also well under the expected 50%.

So GM - not that it looks like it from the numbers - had an OK day again.


BOROUGH / CASES TODAY / V YESTERDAY / V LAST WEEK


BOLTON 137 / UP 34 / UP 2

BURY 109 / UP 41 / UP 45

MANCHESTER 303 / UP 80 / UP 104

OLDHAM 65 / UP 3 / UP 23

ROCHDALE 74 / UP 10 / UP 8

SALFORD 135 / UP 4 / UP 9

STOCKPORT 115 / UP 38 / UP 13

TAMESIDE 47 / DOWN 15 / DOWN 2

TRAFFORD 80 / UP 13 / UP 19

WIGAN 126 / DOWN 1 / UP 26



Manchester biggest in months, Six boroughs over 100 with Bury joining the usual five, Salford on new high.

Tameside bucks the trend and falls on both measures.

Not a disaster but hard to say it was a particularly good day for anybody
 
Odd socks said:
Give the lad a hug, tell him you respect his decision and will always be there for him.
Remind him how loved he is and how that love made sure you had all his immunization's when he was a child so no harm would come to him.
Now at 27 it's time for him to look out for himself and make probably the first call about protecting himself.
Good luck and don't let it get in the way of the wonderful life you've shared so far.
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Well said mate, got something in my eye...
 
Greater Manchester

Weekly total cases:-




Tameside 324, Oldham 378, Rochdale 421, Trafford 456, Bury 495, Stockport 680, Wigan 716, Salford 780, Bolton 905, Manchester 1606.



Manchester is now 700 clear. Bolton second but Salford closing in fast. With Wigan and Stockport not far behind.

We must hope the flattening off continues and a fall follows that soon.

Nobody now left below 300.

2 or 3 weeks ago Bolton was 20 - 30 times more than most in GM now it is barely double anyone.
 
Healdplace said:
Greater Manchester

Weekly total cases:-




Tameside 324, Oldham 378, Rochdale 421, Trafford 456, Bury 495, Stockport 680, Wigan 716, Salford 780, Bolton 905, Manchester 1606.



Manchester is now 700 clear. Bolton second but Salford closing in fast. With Wigan and Stockport not far behind.

We must hope the flattening off continues and a fall follows that soon.

Nobody now left below 300.

2 or 3 weeks ago Bolton was 20 - 30 times more than most in GM now it is barely double anyone.
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It can go much higher can it ?
 
After a week World leaders have a big boys beano, travel by private jet, pontificate about climate change, our leader decides to delay lockdown easing, costing business another fortune.
 
GM Weekly Pop Data after today:~

Borough / Pop Today / 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.




Bolton 315 / 346 / DOWN 31 Testing positive 11.0%

Salford 301/ 187 / UP 114 Testing positive 9.7%

Manchester 291 / 181 / UP 110 Testing positive 10.3%

Bury 259 / 168 / UP 91 Testing positive 9.7%

Stockport 232 / 147 / UP 85 Testing positive 7.7%

Wigan 218 / 117 / UP 101 Testing positive 9.4%

Trafford 192 / 117 / UP 75 Testing positive 7.5

Rochdale 189 / 121 / UP 68 Testing positive 10.1 %

Oldham 159 / 84 / UP 75 Testing positive 10.1%

Tameside 143 / 84 / UP 59 Testing positive 8.5


Bolton back on top from daily rise in numbers but still just falling week to week but not for long unless more obvious falls start to occur.

As you see everyone else going up and Stockport has levelled off a bit but Salford, Manchester and Wigan up by three figures.

Bury a little way back but if it keeps getting numbers like today might yet challenge those three.

Stockport is still looking more stable though now up at a high base so any bad day can change that.

We need to see some real downward movement before we can start to think real control on numbers will follow.
 
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ChicagoBlue said:
Yep, it always starts slow and accelerates, but we know do much more about treatments now, and the population is well on the way to herd immunity with vaccines and cases combined.

Are there still people who CANNOT get the vaccine?
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If they hadn’t panicked about AZ, everyone in the country could have been vaccinated by now.
 
GM VACCINE UPDATE:


Latest Vaccine Update by Population Percentage for 10 GM boroughs

Borough/ First Dose / Both Doses - TODAY V YESTERDAY



BOLTON 73.2% / 50.1 % V 73.1% / 49.8%

BURY 72.8% / 52.3% V 72.7% / 52.1%

MANCHESTER 53.2% / 31.4 % V 52.9% / 31.3%

OLDHAM 67.5% / 47.7% V 67.4% / 47.3%

ROCHDALE 70.6% / 46.9% V 70.6% / 46.6%

SALFORD 59.7 % / 40. 9 % V 59.6% / 40.8%

STOCKPORT 76.1% / 55.1% V 75.8% / 54.9%

TAMESIDE 71.4% / 50.3 % V 71.2% / 50.1%

TRAFFORD 73.7% / 52.0% V 73.5% / 51.9%

WIGAN 75.3% / 54.2% V 75.3% / 53.9%


Bolton today came from a log way behind with the past month's vaccination push to go over 50% today on double vaccinations. Great progress here in the past 4 week must have helped bringing the number under control.


Seven of the boroughs have over 70% first doses with Stockport still jut leading on 76.1%. Oldham still a little behind and Manchester and Salford still in the 50s%

Half the boroughs now have more than 50% double vaccinated with Stockport at 54.9% again in the lead.

Manchester on 31.3% a long way to go here.
 
uweblue said:
There won't be another lockdown. Personally think everyone has given up now.

Time to move on, it will never get to zero covid, think everyone accepts we will live with forever now
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I'm more worried about her getting covid then I am another lockdown? She is due her 1st vax next week. They wouldn't let her have it any earlier because of her age!
 
Lockdown extended until July 19
No surprise
Shambles
Disgrace
Goodnight Vienna to so many in hospitality and travel.
 
Is anyone now concerned that this will never end?
Are we going to have this for the rest of our lives now never ro return to normal?
 
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