Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Marvin]

London is nearly ten times as dense as the North West, population wise

I was referring to the Indian community. Rundown, and Manchester terraced housing vs London suburbia.

 

[worsleyweb]

Second jab tommorow - been shitting it but finally bitten the bullet.

 

[Blue and still suffering]

some people were fearful of it early on and are hopefully coming forward now the efficacy and safety concerns are not materialising. As long as they get done that's the main thing.

Good point!
Unfortunately there are still too many who are hanging back

 

[Blue and still suffering]

Second jab tommorow - been shitting it but finally bitten the bullet.

Good luck! Hope it all runs smoothly for you
How are you feeling now?

 

[Kompany Car]

Just to be clear, there is a bit of a trope going round that Asian people live in communes at the moment, as it fits a transmission story that people are using to attempt to make sense of the current covid spike

The average UK house size is about 2.5, South Asian descendent families average about 3.5. It's not drastically more, maybe enough to cause slightly more household transmission, but I suspect it's community and culture as well.

The larger household size as mentioned by @ctwrd is very much based on fact as shown above. What is particularly prominent is the percentage of families with more than 4 people living together.
This, coupled with the lower take up of vaccines amongst the south East Asian community probably leads to a greater prevalence and higher transmission.

BTW this is not meant to be critical of those communities in any way, shape or form, purely just presenting the facts.

 

[bluethrunthru]

A heart warming story

Covid: Hull twins, 92, reunited after lockdown separation

Minnie Walsh and Patrick Speed are "full of joy" at being together after Covid forced them apart.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Dubai Blue]

I was referring to the Indian community. Rundown, and Manchester terraced housing vs London suburbia.

Have you seen what London "suburbia" actually looks like? Paved with gold it ain't. The kind of areas you're talking about are every bit as rundown and cramped as their equivalents in Manchester. And in many cases a lot worse.

 

[worsleyweb]

Good luck! Hope it all runs smoothly for you
How are you feeling now?

yes not bad but put it this way I love my bed more than ever!

 

[Toney’s bookie]

my brother is 63 and because he hadnt been to the docs for years they deregistered him but also lost his records and despite trying to reregister they cant find his records so wont jab him.hes rung 119 111 but cant get any help off any of them.he wants it but the incompetence of his docters is staggering

He just needs to go to a walk in

 

[shemnel]

I was referring to the Indian community. Rundown, and Manchester terraced housing vs London suburbia.

youve never been to some of Hounslow or southall then :D

no, but many parts of other major cities have just the same, such as Birmingham, which are just the same terraced areas as those parts of the NW you describe. It's not exclusive, is my point.

 

[shemnel]

3.5 to 2.5 is a massive difference

yeah, i'll grant you it's a difference, but i think this idea that there are 12 under one roof and so on is a little provocative.

 

[shemnel]

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The larger household size as mentioned by @ctwrd is very much based on fact as shown above. What is particularly prominent is the percentage of families with more than 4 people living together.
This, coupled with the lower take up of vaccines amongst the south East Asian community probably leads to a greater prevalence and higher transmission.

BTW this is not meant to be critical of those communities in any way, shape or form, purely just presenting the facts.

yep thanks, i think i said there is a difference of mean 2.5 vs 3.5. I dont deny this fact.

 

[city saint]

That's what I was thinking. Over 25s are being invited to turn up to some park in London on Saturday, and specifically being told they don't need ID documents or anything of the sort.

Wouldn't think your brother should miss out @city saint , just have to declare any known allergies, illnesses etc surely?

honestly he keeps being pushed from pillar to post

 

[Manc in London]

Density

Yep, London has a fairly highly population density, especially Harrow, which has a high population density.

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

Sorry for saying, but I don’t believe he can’t get a jab if he’s over 6o, medial records or no medical records.

my daughter in law is Brazilian, she wasnt on the system despite being registered at her doctors and having an NI number. She got a jab no problem

 

[Manc in London]

I was referring to the Indian community. Rundown, and Manchester terraced housing vs London suburbia.

They are not among the most deprived ethno national groups, as measured by IMD.

There's a lot of poverty down here too. That reminds me, I am going to a local Poverty Commission meeting today.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

A heart warming story

Covid: Hull twins, 92, reunited after lockdown separation

Minnie Walsh and Patrick Speed are "full of joy" at being together after Covid forced them apart.

www.bbc.co.uk

Heart warming? It’s an absolute disgrace that they were separated in the first place.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

So what's everyone's views on where we are up to now?
Lots of people seem to think we will get in another lockdown Sept / Oct despite the mass vaccination programme.

 

[Marvin]

They are not among the most deprived ethno national groups, as measured by IMD.

There's a lot of poverty down here too. That reminds me, I am going to a local Poverty Commission meeting today.

We were discussing the formation of clusters and now you're talking about national groups, and comparing Harrow to parts of Bolton/Blackburn. Chalk and cheese and there most likely is your answer.

 

[Gremlin]

So what's everyone's views on where we are up to now?
Lots of people seem to think we will get in another lockdown Sept / Oct despite the mass vaccination programme.

The reason for lockdowns is to reduce transmission when cases reach the level that hospitalisations and deaths are so high that the NHS is in danger of being overwhelmed. The hope with vaccines is that the link between cases and hospitalisations/deaths has been weakened to the point where the NHS is in no danger even if infections are as high as they were before. In that scenario, there would be no real justification for a further lockdown. We will know more about how the vaccines have affected the linkage in the next few weeks but the current data looks good.