Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

GM Weekly Pop Data after today:~

Borough / Pop Today / 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.


Salford 498 / 351 / UP 147 Testing positive 10.7%

Manchester 494 / 412 / UP 82 Testing positive 11.5%

Wigan 483 / 334/ UP 149 Testing positive 10. 4%

Oldham 429 / 261 / UP 168 Testing positive 10.9%

Rochdale 423 / 266 / UP 157 Testing positive 10.9 %

Bury 388 / 335/ UP 53 Testing positive 10.6%

Trafford 378 / 272 / UP 106 Testing positive 8.3 %

Tameside 349 / 259 / UP 90 Testing positive 9.2%

Bolton 288 / 253 / UP 35 Testing positive 11.7%

Stockport 288 / 215 / UP 73 Testing positive 8.3%




Stockport and Bolton the two best boroughs now officially locked together on the 'lowest' Pop Score if 288 deserves any such term. Bolton very likely to be sub 300 alone tomorrow. Its run from worst to best in 6 weeks is completed.

Some big rises today sadly.


Bury is tumbling down the list too but everyone is going up in GM week to week as you see. Not good.

Trafford case numbers remain worse than Stockport and lost another huge chunk of its lead on overall Pop Score.

Stockport now on 8303 and Trafford on 8289 cutting their once unassailable lead to just 14.

However, Bolton had the best score and the lowest Pop Score rise today of just 44

Pop Score now on 11, 697.

With Manchester rapidly catching up on 11, 463.

Rochdale on 10, 967 was up by 108 today - the highest daily pop rise by any GM borough since last Winter. and Oldham 10, 952 were not far behind but gained some breathing room.

Salford rose to 10, 742.

With Bury, doing much better now and falling behind on 10, 607.

Wigan went up by 87 to reach 10, 366.

So just Stockport and Trafford - both in the low 8000s for now - and Tameside a rung above on 9214.

Unless it slows down Trafford is 2 - 3 weeks away from leaving those 2 as the sole GM boroughs NOT in the 10 K club. Though on current numbers not that far away either.

 

[Healdplace]

GM VACCINE UPDATE:




Latest Vaccine Update by Population Percentage for 10 GM boroughs

Borough/ First Dose / Both Doses - TODAY V YESTERDAY


BOLTON 76.1% / 56.9 % V 76.1 / 56.7%

BURY 77.7% / 57.4% V 77.5% / 57.1%

MANCHESTER 60.2% / 37.0% V 60.0% / 36.5%

OLDHAM 72.0% / 53.8% V 71.9% / 53.6%

ROCHDALE 73.8% / 53.5% V 73.6% / 53.4%

SALFORD 67.2 % / 44.6% V 67.0% / 44.4%

STOCKPORT 81.9% / 61.1% V 81.8% / 60.8%

TAMESIDE 77.2% / 57.7% V 77.1% / 57.6%

TRAFFORD 79.3% / 58.4% V 79.1% / 58.2%

WIGAN 81.1% / 60.5% V 81.0% / 60.0%





Manchester finally has the best day up by 0.7%. Tameside the lowest by 0.2%

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Who would have thought it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

And it's still the main feature on the 11pm news. Came on straight after I've watched Andy Murray win at centre court Wimbledon with the roof closed and everybody sitting beside each other.

Funny that.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

And it's still the main feature on the 11pm news. Came on straight after I've watched Andy Murray win at centre court Wimbledon with the roof closed and everybody sitting beside each other.

Funny that.

Meanwhile my daughter is on day 6 of isolation after being in the vicinity of someone positive at an after school club despite being outside! Shambles.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Meanwhile my daughter is on day 6 of isolation after being in the vicinity of someone positive at an after school club despite being outside! Shambles.

Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Twitter thread is a worthwhile read.

 

[Marvin]

BBC news at 10 then contained a little snippet that concerned me. A claim that the Autumn booster campaign would be unlikely to include variant specific vaccines.I m counting on that being rubbish. From what I understood GSK were hoping to launch a booster based on the SA variant later this year.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Twitter thread is a worthwhile read.

Makes decent sense when you read it, as you say.

 

[uweblue]

Not looking good in France.

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France reports 2,457 new cases and 25 deaths
French authorities also reported there are 1,204 people in intensive care units for COVID-19
It comes after the French government's leading scientific adviser, Professor Jean-Francois Delfraissy, said the country is heading towards a fourth wave

I would say, due to lack of testing the cases would be 10 fold higher

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I would say, due to lack of testing the cases would be 10 fold higher

Seems highly unlikely.

Our test positivity is higher than France *and* we're testing more than 3x more people.

The French testing system would somehow need to be far, far worse at targeting the right people despite not investing in anywhere near as many tests.

Not credible I think.

Of course, it's possible that delta is now becoming dominant, cases will grow that 10x in 6 weeks or so if the growth rate there is as high as it's been here.

 

[mcfc_ms]

Who would have thought it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57667163

what pisses me off most is on the news the other day they were reporting Stormzy promised some england fans That if they beat Germany he would go to their house for a party.

Then it showed him at a house party with lots of others inside, and no one said a fucking word about it breaking the rules

I’m sick of sticking to all the rules and seeing cunts on the tele doing what they want

 

[hammocity]

I now know of 3 double jabbed people that have had positive Covid tests in the past three weeks or so. A nurse who is my mate's niece and in her 30's, a 52 year old, his 19 year son (no jabs) also caught it and ended up in hospital with breathing difficulties and my 60 year golfing pal who is very fit, does open water swimming, currently at home feeling like shite with a banging head ache, this thing is ramping up.

 

[True_Blue69]

I now know of 3 double jabbed people that have had positive Covid tests in the past three weeks or so. A nurse who is my mate's niece and in her 30's, a 52 year old, his 19 year son (no jabs) also caught it and ended up in hospital with breathing difficulties and my 60 year golfing pal who is very fit, does open water swimming, currently at home feeling like shite with a banging head ache, this thing is ramping up.

So out of the 3 vaccinated that have had it the worst was a banging head?

 

[hammocity]

So out of the 3 vaccinated that have had it the worst was a banging head?

2 only got diagnosed on Monday, I've not spoken to my golf pal today but as I said he felt like shite AND had a banging headache and his condition worsened from Tuesday to Wednesday, hopefully he doesn't get further symptoms.

 

[M18CTID]

And it's still the main feature on the 11pm news. Came on straight after I've watched Andy Murray win at centre court Wimbledon with the roof closed and everybody sitting beside each other.

Funny that.

The thing is, the estimated 20,000 ticketless Scots who went to London weren’t breaking any rules regarding travelling as far as I know. Thousands of ticketless City fans travelled to Porto a few weeks ago so I’m not sure we’re in a position to complain.
I do think there is a discussion worth having regarding football fans and sports fans in general being allowed to attend events in their tens of thousands, while parents are barred from seeing their kids competing in school sports days. I’m a football fan and I don’t have kids but even I can see that that doesn’t seem particularly fair.

 

[M18CTID]

2 only got diagnosed on Monday, I've not spoken to my golf pal today but as I said he felt like shite AND had a banging headache and his condition worsened from Tuesday to Wednesday, hopefully he doesn't get further symptoms.

Hopefully that’s the worst of it. The vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it. It doesn’t stop you feeling like shit for a few days either if you do get it. By and large, it’s meant to stop you getting seriously ill and dying but sadly the odd person will still end up in that category as it’s not quite 100% effective.

 

[splinter]

I now know of 3 double jabbed people that have had positive Covid tests in the past three weeks or so. A nurse who is my mate's niece and in her 30's, a 52 year old, his 19 year son (no jabs) also caught it and ended up in hospital with breathing difficulties and my 60 year golfing pal who is very fit, does open water swimming, currently at home feeling like shite with a banging head ache, this thing is ramping up.

And the crowds having a spiffing time at Wimbledon, not a care in the world

 

[grunge]

So out of the 3 vaccinated that have had it the worst was a banging head?

A mate of mine ( very fit and healthy 51 year old ), double jabbed. had it and it totally knocked him for 6, "worst flu type illness he's ever had". very close to getting taken to AnE by his other half but didn't go in the end.

Christ knows how bad it would have been without the vaccine.

 

[True_Blue69]

Im completely in favour of and understand the vaccine is working thankfully. What im saying is cases are rising and I'm hearing of it from my friends for the first time in about three months. My mate works at Tameside Hospital and they reopened the Covid ward a few weeks ago.

Just typing this outside a company I do work for and one of the Directors has just told me a third member of staff is now isolating after testing positive, double jabbed, the other 2 had no jabs. It's definitely on the rise.

Its 100% not going away. Hopefully the vaccines give long enough protection to never have to lock down again and make serious illness and deaths in line with other endemic viruses that we live with. When this started we had zero immunity, even without vaccines we would probably have over 30% now so we will never go back to where we were.

 

[inbetween]

Hopefully that’s the worst of it. The vaccine doesn’t stop you getting it. It doesn’t stop you feeling like shit for a few days either if you do get it. By and large, it’s meant to stop you getting seriously ill and dying but sadly the odd person will still end up in that category as it’s not quite 100% effective.

For most people at the moment they'll either of had a vaccine or had COVID (or both) and that should be enough to bat the virus away in a future infection.

It won't stop cases but case numbers are artificially inflated at the moment because of the shear fact that we are testing a lot of people, many of which don't even have symptoms. We can't therefore compare this wave now to that in the winter or last year because the testing methodology is completely different.

If you look at India at the moment, you'd think how is it correct that India has 50,000 cases per day whilst seeing clearly well over 2,000 deaths per day? It's all because of testing. They likely truly have hundreds of thousands of cases per day and I bet we did at one point in January (despite the figures saying otherwise).