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I agree about the media - johnny. This has been their story of the century and they are seeking to outdo one another for clicks.

I have never been a journalist but - being a writer - have had things published in newspapers. magazines and elsewhere. So I know how they operate and why and been on the end of their stories too on a few occasions. So I comment on them from direct experience not just the way they handle the pandemic which you do not need any experience to see.

In our digital on line instant access world old school journalism is an endangered occupation so they have created their own ways not to follow the dodo into extinction,

But I am only posting the data here. Nothing special or difficult. I happen to have the time and whilst people want to see it am happy to do it. That's all. I try to minimise commentary as there are experts in the relevant fields here far better qualified to comment than I am on where we are and what might happen.

Though from time to time I forget and do comment!
 
WALES DATA

AS ALWAYS THIS IS ALL WEEKEND DATA AND IN FACT 50 HOURS NOT 48 OWING TO THE LATEST GLITCH

3 deaths - was 3 last week

2394 cases - was 1364 last week

9.0% positivity - was 5.3% last week

Regardless of two days (as was last Monday too, of course) this is a worryingly big jump up this weekend
 
ZOE APP DATA


Predicted cases FALL again - though by less today than before:-

ON 42, 016 DOWN 270 FROM 42, 286 After DOWN to 43. 728 BY 1442 and DOWN from 44, 679 BY 951 and DOWN from 45 594 - BY 915.



SO ZOE - LIKE THE REAL DATA - IS SHOWING A LEVELLING OFF NOW BUT WELL ABOVE THE GOV UK DAILY NUMBERS STILL


Ongoing symptomatic cases are also still falling. But again slowed today.


ON 629, 423 FROM 636, 503 DOWN by 7080

Yesterday was DOWN FROM 646, 638 - by a fall of 10, 135


PAST WEEK DOWN 653 883 - A FALL OF 7245 AND FROM 662 086 - by 8203 AND FROM 669 433 A FALL OF 6951 AND FROM 675 135, 680 244 & 690 506 on previous days


Ongoing cases will lag daily predicted cases by a few days
 
ZOE APP REGIONS:


Yorkshire still top but falls again - DOWN ON 727 / 1013 FROM 742 / 1034 AND 811 / 1124

London - ALSO DOWN WELL ON 688 / 875 FROM 713 / 906


THESE ARE NOW THE ONLY TWO IN THE HIGHEST WATCH ZONE



North East - DOWN AGAIN ON 545 / 766 FROM 552 / 950

Northern Ireland - ALSO GOOD FALLS TO 301 / 1159 FROM 346 / 1282


NORTH WEST STANDS STILL TODAY AT 545 / 766 AFTER FALLNG FOR DAYS BEFORE




AND IN THE LOWEST WATCH ZONES ON THEIR OWN:-


WALES UP slightly TO 348 / 618 FROM 343 / 617


SCOTLAND STILL (FOR NOW) IN THE LOWEST BUT ALSO NOW GOING UP STEADILY EVERY DAY


UP T0 261 / 469 / FROM 249 456 AND 234 / 442
 
ZOE APP NORTH WEST DATA


GREATER MANCHESTER


BOLTON DOWN BIG TO 6515 FROM - as in real case data yesterday drops to the best in GM in one go

BURY UP SLIGHTLY TO 12 791 FROM 12 589 - could go either way

MANCHESTER STILL FALLING HAPPILY TO 6860 FROM 7819 - falling still to lowest here in a long time

OLDHAM UP TO 21, 260 FROM 17, 363 - been going up steadily and now the highest in GM and one of the most in the North West - which matches its real high case numbers

ROCHDALE EDGES UP TO 12 592 FROM 11 365 - edging up towards neighbour Oldham.

SALFORD UP a little from its best low score yesterday on 7932 FROM 6518 - now going the right way but no longer the best. Bolton and Manchester overtaken it.

STOCKPORT DOWN TO 8303 FROM 9185 - up and down and good but not great is the best comment here.

TAMESIDE FALLS slightly to 16 023 FROM 16 325- no longer highest in GM as Oldham is above. But still high.

TRAFFORD INCHES DOWN TO 8793 FROM 8872 - back to falling and it has been doing better lately in real data

WIGAN UP TO 12 690 FROM 11 990 - tracking high but not near where it was about sums up its real cases


Others:

CHESHIRE EAST - often tracks neighbour Stockport but not today as it is up quite a a bit TO 10 370 FROM 8103 AND 7169 in past days

LIVERPOOL - UP AGAIN TOO to 11 778 FROM 9314 - going the reverse of Manchester which it was matching

WIRRAL - still slowly falling in contrast to Liverpool TO 5694 FROM 5811 AND 6347


FYLDE & WYRE (The Blackpool holiday coast)

UP today a little TO 11 184 FROM 10, 327 - Nowhere near the 25K it was up too in the sunshine. But still high as are the areas around Preston.
 
johnnymarrsbarres said:
I see the Guardian are running an an article about the pandemic “being set back a year” due to “new vaccine evading variants” which don’t even exist, and according to most scientists I’ve seen comment on this, probably won’t exist as to evade vaccines the virus would have to mutate so much it’d likely make itself inert.

The Guardian and the Daily Mail have been two of the worst culprits through this whole thing. They’re both obsessed with doom and gloom and never want this to end.

Sells papers I guess.

Tbh the only mainstream publication to have spoken soberly based on facts and not blind speculation has been the FT. Their coverage has been exemplary.

(And Healdplace obvs).
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I’m sure the DM must have run a series of articles about ‘what Diana would have done in pandemic’, ‘did Diana fortell corona?’ by now?

Alongside the relentless ‘corona helps house price rises’, ‘Will channel refugees bring new variants?’
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
Can people please take their attacks on "Mainstream" media back to where they found it please (Twitter & Facebook) or to a relevant thread.
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“Attacks”?

Have you seen the shite some of them have been spouting?

The distortion of facts and the impact this has on peoples mental health and our recovery is entirely relevant to this discussion.

I have no political agenda here.
 
SCOTLAND DATA

ANOTHER BIT OF A WORRYING SIGN

0 deaths - was 0 last week

1567 cases - was 851 last week

9.6% positivity - was 6.7% last week

337 patients - UP 6 on yesterday - was 356 last week

39 ventilated icu - down 1 on yesterday - was 42 last week


DOUBLE WEEK TO WEEK THOUGH IT WAS AROUND 1300/1500 ALL WEEK AFTERWARDS BUT MATCHING ZOE WHICH HAS HAD SCOTLAND EDGING UP EVERY DAY NOW FOR A WEEK WHEN MUCH OF UK IS FALLING
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS

SATURDAY

72 with 15 North West - Last Week 53 with 6 NW & Week before that 36 with 9 NW.


SUNDAY

16 with 1 North West - Last Week 12 with 6 NW & Week before that 21 with 1 NW.


MONDAY

7 with 1 North West - Last Week 15 with 2 NW & Week before 7 with 5 NW
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS:

DATA ACROSS THREE DAY WEEKEND

TOTAL DEATHS 95 - Was 80 Week Before & 64 Week before that.

The 95

By Region:

East 8, London 9, Midlands 34, NE & Yorkshire 13, North West 17, South East 4, South West 10

North West trusts:

Southport 4. East Lancashire 2, Pennine Acute (Oldham/Rochdale) 2, St Helens 2. Wigan 2

And one each in Liverpool, Manchester, Salford, Tameside & Wirral

By Age:

20 - 39 (3), 40 - 59 (16), 60 - 79 (41), 80 PLUS (35)
 
NORTHERN IRELAND DATA

3 deaths - was 8 last week

1306 cases - was 1031 cases last week

9.6% positivity - was 9.2% last week

9991 last seven day cases - was 8974 last week

123 Care Home Outbreaks - up 1 since Friday - was 112 last week. Slight slowing here is promising

334 patients - down 25 over weekend - was 379 last week

34 ventilated - up 2 over weekend - was 34 last week
 
NORTHERN IRELAND PAST 7 DAY CASES BY AGE :-


0 - 19 (3010) 30.1%

20 - 39 (3556) 35.6%

40 - 59 (2287) 22.9%

60 - 79 (901) 9.0%

80 PLUS (236) 2.4%

By far still the under 40s are the main drivers of this wave. Two thirds of all cases still.

Sadly the numbers here keep going the wrong way - inevitably I suppose

66% under 40 now - two months ago was 80%

almost 23% 40 - 59 - was 18%

And 11.4% over 60 - this was 3% at start of Delta wave.


IN THE LAST WAVE IN JANUARY - HOWEVER - THE 60 PLUS NUMBERS WERE DOUBLE WHERE WE ARE NOW.

BUT THE SPREAD INTO THE OLDER AGE RANGES HAS BEEN REAL AND HAS OBVIOUSLY IMPACTED ON BOTH THE CARE HOME OUTBREAK NUMBERS -NOW NOT FAR SHORT OF WHAT THEY WERE IN WINTER BUT HAPPILY SHOWING SIGNS OF SLOWING.

AND ALSO ON THE NUMBER OF DEATHS - THOUGH AGAIN HAPPILY WELL BELOW JANUARY.
 
johnnymarrsbarres said:
I see the Guardian are running an an article about the pandemic “being set back a year” due to “new vaccine evading variants” which don’t even exist, and according to most scientists I’ve seen comment on this, probably won’t exist as to evade vaccines the virus would have to mutate so much it’d likely make itself inert.

The Guardian and the Daily Mail have been two of the worst culprits through this whole thing. They’re both obsessed with doom and gloom and never want this to end.

Sells papers I guess.

Tbh the only mainstream publication to have spoken soberly based on facts and not blind speculation has been the FT. Their coverage has been exemplary.

(And Healdplace obvs).
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Totally agree with that, the Guardian in particular has been a disgrace, Daily Mail as expected.

Have seen some very balanced articles in the FT, and in New York Times which has excellent graphical analysis.
 
Healdplace said:
I agree about the media - johnny. This has been their story of the century and they are seeking to outdo one another for clicks.

I have never been a journalist but - being a writer - have had things published in newspapers. magazines and elsewhere. So I know how they operate and why and been on the end of their stories too on a few occasions. So I comment on them from direct experience not just the way they handle the pandemic which you do not need any experience to see.

In our digital on line instant access world old school journalism is an endangered occupation so they have created their own ways not to follow the dodo into extinction,

But I am only posting the data here. Nothing special or difficult. I happen to have the time and whilst people want to see it am happy to do it. That's all. I try to minimise commentary as there are experts in the relevant fields here far better qualified to comment than I am on where we are and what might happen.

Though from time to time I forget and do comment!
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You do yourself a disservice. For me your calm and balanced narrative is more important than the data (helpful as that is)/
 
26 all settings deaths - was 37 last week

28, 438 cases

Up 1688 on yesterday and 3277 on last week

England up by 312 on yesterday and 1256 on last week


661, 105 Pillar 1 & 2 tests - up from 643, 281 yesterday but down from 670, 711 last week
 
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johnnymarrsbarres said:
“Attacks”?

Have you seen the shite some of them have been spouting?

The distortion of facts and the impact this has on peoples mental health and our recovery is entirely relevant to this discussion.

I have no political agenda here.
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It's social media shite for people who hear something they don't want to. There is a thread for the media and covid, a mod started it.
 
Healdplace said:
I agree about the media - johnny. This has been their story of the century and they are seeking to outdo one another for clicks.

I have never been a journalist but - being a writer - have had things published in newspapers. magazines and elsewhere. So I know how they operate and why and been on the end of their stories too on a few occasions. So I comment on them from direct experience not just the way they handle the pandemic which you do not need any experience to see.

In our digital on line instant access world old school journalism is an endangered occupation so they have created their own ways not to follow the dodo into extinction,

But I am only posting the data here. Nothing special or difficult. I happen to have the time and whilst people want to see it am happy to do it. That's all. I try to minimise commentary as there are experts in the relevant fields here far better qualified to comment than I am on where we are and what might happen.

Though from time to time I forget and do comment!
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Your stats on here are most welcome and i give a like to pretty much everyone i read but you do quite often tack on your view on the media which is almost always negative. I simply state that a mod created a thread for people reactions to the medias handling of covid so it should be discussed there. I and others are tired of people shoehorning twitter and facebook like attacks on "MSM" in every other topic.

I will get a lot of hate no doubt but the attacks on the press from people who simply don't like what they hear is one of the most dangerous things in society today and is almost always done by social media algorithm junkies. There is a thread for it and all i ask is for people to use it.
 
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