Nobody in the UK works for the international travel industry then? No UK jobs in airlines, trains, travel companies, ferries? No jobs at airports, ports etc. Perhaps not everyone wants to stay at home.
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Two or three years ago, the annual flu jab failed by targetting wrong virus types. Let's hope the annual booster for Covid works every time.Obviously nobody can know this other than expectation as even those who had the vaccines in trial have had it under a year. But it might prove to be true.
What they do know though is that antibodies are present in those who had it 3 or 4 months ago at the start of the vaccination programme here - so it seems reasonable that we can say that long and likely more. There as yet seems little sign that these numbers wane fast.
I do not think anybody expects this to be a one shot and out solution as the virus has shown itself adept at mutating into strains that get around barriers. Largely as it is so infectious it gets millions of goes at hitting on a winning lottery ticket. And any that infect more easily and thrive then survive by natural selection. The variant first identified in Kent that sent the Southern UK rates skyrocketing in December is now dominant across Europe (hence their new lockdowns springing up as they are way behind in vaccinating to be ahead of the wave) and others will emerge.
Quite likely some degree of protection will remain even to new ones but it is equally probable that an annual booster jab for the vulnerable will be happening around September/October this year and possibly every year alongside the flu jabs for the ones who are in the priority groups as now. And likely on sale for about £10 to anyone else at Boots like the flu jabs are also. Just to protect over coming winters from the latest variants that have emerged in past months.
This is exactly what happens with the Winter flu jab already. We base it on the new versions that emerged in the Summer where in Australia and other Southern Hemisphere countries they have already had their winter so they know what new variants of flu appeared in that time.
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Wales data:
6 deaths - was 6 last week
208 cases - was 210 last week
1.6 % positivity - was 1.7 % last week
Weekly Pop score 42 - was 44 yesterday and 42 last week
Think you can call that a flatline. Being driven it seems from North Wales.
6 deaths - was 6 last week
208 cases - was 210 last week
1.6 % positivity - was 1.7 % last week
Weekly Pop score 42 - was 44 yesterday and 42 last week
Think you can call that a flatline. Being driven it seems from North Wales.
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There is always that risk as it takes months to plan and manufacture the winter flu jab so it always works off early summer variants in the southern hemisphere and if new ones emerge late they will miss the bus. But it works pretty well most years. Many countries in lockdown next winter as I suspect some will still have to be for a time will help restrict the spread of anything that slips through.Two or three years ago, the annual flu jab failed by targetting wrong virus types. Let's hope the annual booster for Covid works every time.
I actually think it is a good thing if we can only take UK holidays this year. We should be helping our own economy recover not boosting the coffers in countries that have spent all Winter blaming us for all their own mistakes. They are still going on about the British variant creating their new waves. And the dodgy/no brilliant/um no dodgy/ um no brilliant British vaccine causing anti vaccine thoughts in their people.
Summer 2021 should be built around getting our own seaside towns and country retreats and major cities back on track. Nobody going to Benidorm in July will save jobs in Blackpool or Brighton.
I bet there will be a big stay at home discount scheme and campaign too.
Broadly agree that it's nice. Though I can't deny that the thought of a holiday in Blackpool is depressing as fuck. It's an absolute dive. A truly miserable thought if that's our option ha.
The 'golden mile' is the tattiest place in England!Broadly agree that it's nice. Though I can't deny that the thought of a holiday in Blackpool is depressing as fuck. It's an absolute dive. A truly miserable thought if that's our option ha.
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Nobody wants to stay at home. But if going on holiday for a few days now brings back a new spread then they will be paying for that 'essential' trip to the sun by months of gloom and staying at home not just for themselves.Nobody in the UK works for the international travel industry then? No UK jobs in airlines, trains, travel companies, ferries? No jobs at airports, ports etc. Perhaps not everyone wants to stay at home.
Unfortunately in a pandemic there are winners and losers and there will be a huge boom in international travel once that is safe and possible. They will reap those rewards.
At the moment we have to beat this terrible virus and not make the mistake of doing too much too fast becaue we think it is worth the gamble.
Been there, done that, ended up buying the face mask.
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It might look like Monte Carlo after a year in your back garden.The 'golden mile' is the tattiest place in England!
Not suggesting we do too much too fast. There’s a roadmap out of lockdown based on checks and data at every step. It’s pretty much certain this is a virus we will have to live with long term so for how long do we stay at home and not return to some normality?Nobody WANTS to stay at home. But if going on holiday for a few days now brings back a new spread then they will be paying for that 'essential' trip to the sun by months of gloom and staying at home not just for themselves.
Unfortunately in a pandemic there are winners and losers and there will be a huge boom in international travel once that is safe and possible. They will reap those rewards.
At the moment we have to beat this terrible virus and not make the mistake of doing too much too fast becaue we think it is worth the gamble.
Been there, done that, ended up buying the face mask.
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I’d say when Europe has got a handle on the virus and vaccination levels are on a par with the UK and US , obviously we need a global effort so that travel can resume worldwide, I’d imagine Australia and New Zealand will be out of bounds until next year .Not suggesting we do too much too fast. There’s a roadmap out of lockdown based on checks and data at every step. It’s pretty much certain this is a virus we will have to live with long term so for how long do we stay at home and not return to some normality?
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