Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Grim press conference, grim headlines, grim leaks.

Been a lot of positivity recently regarding the reopening but that has been heavily tempered by all of that today.
 
Because not everyone will have had the vaccine. The people refusing are doing so at their own choice but are also affecting things like this for everyone else. Also other countries may still be struggling with Covid as they’ve had even greater refusal to have the vaccine.
But some people refusing it is never going to change. If some cock wazzle doesn’t take it now because he read some shite on Facebook about Bill gates and NWO and all that shite, that won’t change in a years time. We’re never gonna reach a point where everyone has taken the vaccine. On that basis we would have to have restrictions forever as there will always be those idiots that refuse it for non medical reasons. And I’m also appreciative of the fact that international restrictions will be needed for some time, that I can understand. But if the completion of the vaccine rollout doesn’t result in domestic normality then literally nothing will.
 
But some people refusing it is never going to change. If some cock wazzle doesn’t take it now because he read some shite on Facebook about Bill gates and NWO and all that shite, that won’t change in a years time. We’re never gonna reach a point where everyone has taken the vaccine. On that basis we would have to have restrictions forever as there will always be those idiots that refuse it for non medical reasons. And I’m also appreciative of the fact that international restrictions will be needed for some time, that I can understand. But if the completion of the vaccine rollout doesn’t result in domestic normality then literally nothing will.
Correct and labour mps made a major error extending the emergency powers until October last week. They have zero say on the government rolling out ridiculous measures.
 
Grim press conference, grim headlines, grim leaks.

Been a lot of positivity recently regarding the reopening but that has been heavily tempered by all of that today.

wonder if they did that on purpose to try and maximise vaccine uptake? Agree with you it was far less positive than I had hoped. This won’t be “over” for a year or two will it.
 
I saw a BBC news report earlier today from Manchester airport and the reporter said that 59 flights were leaving from there today. If each flight has a much lower than normal occupation, say 100 people (a complete guess) per flight, that’s nearly 6000 people today. Where are they going to in a pandemic? Is it all work related? I’ve never really understood why flights in and out of the country continue (albeit at a very much reduced rate) when the biggest danger to us now cases are so low, is that a variant of concern comes back and puts our progress back. What am I missing, can anybody on here shed any light on it?
 
wonder if they did that on purpose to try and maximise vaccine uptake? Agree with you it was far less positive than I had hoped. This won’t be “over” for a year or two will it.
its bollox it was all crying Matt Hancock saying vaccines are fantastic and this is our way out of it. It’s a huge moment

they are making a lot of people think what is the fucking point. Seriously what is the point of us all getting jabbed spending billions doing it and restrictions all need to stay in for the next two years, or more.

i appreciate it’s not 100% effective to prevent transmission but I thought AZ said it was 100% effective preventing serious illness. Surely that’s enough for people. Those who are jabbed are happy with that aren’t they ? Seems we have switched to a zero Covid strategy despite the seeming success of vaccines.

it’s interesting In the recent press conferences with numbers falling they downplay the success of vaccines and big up the lockdown restrictions.

they need to start selling the success and effectiveness of the vaccines so as people take the things . People won’t bother if you keep telling us get jabbed and restrictions will be with us for years.

he won’t be letting go of these emergency lockdown powers before October will he and I expect he will ask for another 6 months extension.

he said 21 June ALL Covid restrictions will be lifted. What he meant was Yeah but except .......
 
To your question in bold...
The point is people don’t want to be sharing their space with people who could be carrying a larger viral load or a new variant of Covid that could kill us or someone we love because they haven’t had the vaccine. So we’d rather they weren’t allowed to be around us. As would other countries. Do you think Taiwan would be welcoming to letting Brits into their country if we’ve not had the vaccine? No chance! They’ll quite rightly tell us to get fucked, get real and get the fucking vaccine!

Due to being vaccinated, your immune system doesn’t allow the virus to replicate in large numbers across numerous cells in your respiratory system. Therefore, your viral load will be much lower and your chances of spreading a large viral load to somebody else is greatly reduced.

A lower viral load in someone else gives them a greater chance to fight it off without getting ill. And greatly reduces their chances of becoming seriously ill or dying.

A lower viral load also reduces the risk of the virus mutating because it isn’t allowed to replicate and evolve into a new variant.

Multiply this across the population, and the risk of spread, illness, death and new variants is reduced.

To the rest of your post...
LOL
Only 47% of 65 to 74-year-olds and 26% of over-75s own a smartphone. They risk being discriminated against because they won’t have access to a potential digital vaccine passport. Doesn’t seem like a LOL really.
 
Goebbels as propagandist, not as Nazi. Other than that, I’m genuinely curious why you support showing your papers to take part in society?
Because the point of a society is to take part in what's best for the majority? Do you support socialised healthcare? Do you support charity?

These things require you to give a little and be unselfish to support others? What are you so afraid of? If you're so introspective and clever why can't you see it from the other side? I don't want to share society with people who belittle progress and advancement. People who perpetuate disease and suffering.

The people refusing on 'civil liberty' grounds are not taking part in society to begin with. They are taking FROM society and only interested in their own selves.

These are my own opinions based on observation and don't include people refusing for medical reasons.
 
Because the point of a society is to take part in what's best for the majority? Do you support socialised healthcare? Do you support charity?

These things require you to give a little and be unselfish to support others? What are you so afraid of? If you're so introspective and clever why can't you see it from the other side? I don't want to share society with people who belittle progress and advancement. People who perpetuate disease and suffering.

The people refusing on 'civil liberty' grounds are not taking part in society to begin with. They are taking FROM society and only interested in their own selves.

These are my own opinions based on observation and don't include people refusing for medical reasons.

well what about all the millions who have had Covid Or been vaccinated? I don’t see those who have been vaccinated being given the green light to get on with their lives.

doing things for Society by getting jabbed doesn’t seem to give any degree of advantage “papers, or no papers”

my Thoughts following the last two conferences is these restrictions on our liberties are with us for years to come. Vaccine or no vaccine, papers or no papers unfortunately.
 
A bit flat after that government update Think I'll go to the zoo though..see it they can put me up..
 
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