Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

It is a little hard relate the above GM data from Zoe App other than very generally to the actual ongoing cases reported daily in these boroughs.

Though Tameside in second highest and Oldham third is not much of a surprise. Nor is Salford doing as well as it is based on real positive case numbers recently.

But the boroughs Pop Scores as they stand offer a kind of guide - though across the whole pandemic and so current levels can be up or down on the borough's 'norm'.

These are ongoing actual tested positive cases per 100.000 population. In GM right now these are from lowest (best) to highest (worst):

Trafford 6894, Stockport 7083, Tameside 8044, Wigan 8781, Salford 8895, Bury 8966, Bolton 8977, Rochdale 9486, Manchester 9492 & Oldham 9637

 

[BlueAnorak]

8 times more infections with it than with the original and Kent strains for fully inoculated folk.

Still in other news genomic testing in Europe proves the Kent variant is more infectious than the SA one, so the SA one isn't going to take off till vaccination rates are pretty big and although people can get ill with the SA strain after getting vaccinated, they tend not to get really ill - though there really aren't the figures to really prove this yet.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The Sinovac vaccine roll out in Bra,il (and also in Chile) shows its not good in efficacy terms.

Chinese vaccines’ effectiveness low, official admits

Efficacy of a coronavirus vaccine from Sinovac – one of main jabs – has been found to be as low as 50.4 percent.

www.aljazeera.com

Though not mentioned in the article, people get pretty ill in South America having had Chinese vaccines over a month earlier as well.

 

[Healdplace]

For UK comparison with the above there are currently

7 boroughs in the 10,000 Pop score range above every GM borough (Havering, Leicester, Pendle, Redbridge, Sandwell, Slough. Thurrock)

4 in the 11,000 range (Barking, Burnley, Knowsley, Merthyr Tydfil)

And just 1 - the highest in the UK right now - Blackburn at 12, 026 - which entered the 12,000 club as its sole member - so far - this week.

At the other end of the scale there are 18 in the 2000 club - (Aberdeenshire, Angus, Ceredigion, Cornwall & Isles of Scilly, Dumfries and Galloway. East Devon, East Lothian, Fife, Gwynedd, Mendip, Mid Devon, North Devon, North Norfolk, Pembrokeshire, Perth, Scottish Borders, Teignbridge, West Devon)
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And just 7 in the 1000 club Argyle & Bute, Comhairle nan Eilean Siar, Highland, Moray, Shetland Islands, South Hams, Torridge

Orkney Islands at just 319 is the only borough in the UK not to have made at least the 1000 club.

The obvious pattern is that rural isolated areas stop the spread.

Which is why New Zealand for instance has been able to do so well.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

The Sinovac vaccine roll out in Bra,il (and also in Chile) shows its not good in efficacy terms.

Chinese vaccines’ effectiveness low, official admits

Efficacy of a coronavirus vaccine from Sinovac – one of main jabs – has been found to be as low as 50.4 percent.

www.aljazeera.com

Though not mentioned in the article, people get pretty ill having had the vaccine over a month earlier as well.

Blimey it must be even worse than 50% if the Chinese are willing to admit to that - this was their global grand gesture by rolling out their own fix it solution to poorer countries (or countries where they have an economic/political interest in). either way it’s a shame as we need as much effective working vaccine as possible

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths

11 with 3 from the NW.

2 from Manchester and 1 from Stockport are only NW deaths.

2 from Birmingham and 2 from York were the only others over 1.

Was 15 with 0 from NW last week

All 11 deaths were aged over 80 - first time I recall that happening though with low number it likely will again.

Only 9 were in the past month.

 

[johnnytapia]

England hospital deaths

11 with 3 from the NW.

2 from Manchester and 1 from Stockport are only NW deaths.

2 from Birmingham and 2 from York were the only others over 1.

Was 15 with 0 from NW last week

All 11 deaths were aged over 80 - first time I recall that happening though with low number it likely will again.

Only 9 were in the past month.

This is where the numbers become almost meaningless, all of those deaths could quite easily have been as a result of non-Covid related death ie, heart attack, cancer etc but because of the 28 day rule it’s down as a covid death. Those 11 may have not been vaccinated so, again, doesn’t really provide any data on impact on vaccine to death link. Will we ever see the day when Covid deaths aren’t reported as they’re not statistically significant?

 

[Blue and still suffering]

England hospital deaths

11 with 3 from the NW.

2 from Manchester and 1 from Stockport are only NW deaths.

2 from Birmingham and 2 from York were the only others over 1.

Was 15 with 0 from NW last week

All 11 deaths were aged over 80 - first time I recall that happening though with low number it likely will again.

Only 9 were in the past month.

That does ma

 

[Blue and still suffering]

This is where the numbers become almost meaningless, all of those deaths could quite easily have been as a result of non-Covid related death ie, heart attack, cancer etc but because of the 28 day rule it’s down as a covid death. Those 11 may have not been vaccinated so, again, doesn’t really provide any data on impact on vaccine to death link. Will we ever see the day when Covid deaths aren’t reported as they’re not statistically significant?

That's what I was trying to say before I cocked up my reply

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland data:

0 deaths - was 0 last week

250 cases - was 343 last week

1.8% positivity - was 2.7% last week