Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Was just about to post the exact same thing. The numbers now are so low that you are looking at people with serious/terminal illnesses who happen to have Covid dying within 28 days of being tested. It probably hasn't happened yet but it also could include someone being hit by a bus, for example.

There is no reason why someone testing positive now should be more likely to be run over by a bus within 28 days than they were before.

There is no reason why someone with a terminal illness should be more likely to die within 28 days of a COVID test than they were before.

It doesn't matter if 1,000 people or 1,000,000 test positive on a given day, the same proportion will die of other causes within 28 days. So the same proportion of deaths are wrongly allocated to COVID.

Equally, the same proportion of people testing positive will survive beyond 28 days, but still die of COVID and be wrongly ascribed as not a COVID death.

This is, and always has been a total red herring.
 
Greater Manchester Cases


157 cases today - down 6 on yesterday - little under par for NW fall of 22 to 278 today. By about 5!

This is UP by just 1 week to week from 156.

At these low numbers the odd case has a magnified impact that is meaningless really.


Manchester top scores on 49 - up 14 on day and 18 week to week. Not a good day for the city. Drove the numbers today and all the other boroughs well below it. Remarkably a list headed by.....

Trafford stays on 16 on the day and up 5 wk to wk. Lost the most Pop Score points to Stockport for some time.

Wigan next on 14 - down 4 on the day but up 3 wk to wk

Bolton also on 14 which is down 1 on the day and 6 on last week. Good day here.

Salford down 7 on the day to 13 which is up 3 from last wk.

Oldham down 7 too on the day to 12 though a huge drop of 16 on last week will boost Pop Score.

Rochdale down 2 to 11 rises 10 but falling 6 week to week.

Tameside up 2 also on 11 on the day which is down 3 from last week.

Bury - not top today - on 10 doubling from 5 - up 4 on the day but up just 1 from last week


And only one borough in single figures today:


Stockport - on 7 is down 6 on the day but up 2 week to week. Even so caught up 5 overall Pop Score points on Trafford (the gap is now 'just' 183 - but it has very slowly inched down in past 2 weeks).

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9 of the 10 boroughs split by just 9 cases today!

8 of the 10 boroughs sub 100 in weekly cases now and split by just 35. Big improvement.


Weekly cases:-

Bury 55, Trafford 65, Wigan 77, Rochdale 77. Tameside 78, Stockport 82. Salford 88, Oldham 90, Bolton 139, Manchester 289.
 
We will continue to have problems with this if they don't ban flights, red list countries do not work, I have seen evidence of this first hand, people just transfer at none red list countries and back into our country, the amount of baggage we take off German flights has gone up a lot,

Stop inbound passengers, stop corona, so simple, we should of done this right away

I think I'm right in saying that any arrivals from a red list country have to have spent a minimum of 10 days in a non-red list country before arrival into the UK to avoid the hotel quarantine?

I don't think someone can just go 'red list country - Germany - UK' in 1/2 days and dodge the rules.

Just like if someone went 'green list country - Dubai - UK' then they'd be required to hotel quarantine even though they only transited a red list country on their way back.
 
I think I'm right in saying that any arrivals from a red list country have to have spent a minimum of 10 days in a non-red list country before arrival into the UK to avoid the hotel quarantine?

I don't think someone can just go 'red list country - Germany - UK' in 1/2 days and dodge the rules.

Just like if someone went 'green list country - Dubai - UK' then they'd be required to hotel quarantine even though they only transited a red list country on their way back.
When dubai was red the first time I can promise the German flights were full of Emirates bags
 
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