Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BlueAnorak]

I’m guessing ( pure hunch on my part ) that omicron is spreading via aerosol air-born quite freely now, with how transmissible it’s become I can’t see any other way.

It is certainly optimised for infection now having it's initial reproductive rate (R0) increase from 2(ish) to 10 or so.
[It is still blocked to some degree by existing Covid antibodies and Covid restrictions so its effective reproduction rate (Re) is 3.45 as oppossed to Delta Re that is around 1.
The infectiousmess would indicate that now, like measles, it doesn't need much in the way of water vapour to spread, unlike Flu that is very much seasonal as a result.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

The distrust of science is simply a symptom of hearing something you don't want to. Some people don't care how many get sick, go into hospital die etc they just don't want any restrictions, end of. They pretend they don't believe the science but the truth is they just don't care. A good few have gone full on tin foil hat in the last 48 hrs attacking scientists, media GP's all because they think "i'm alright jack"

We have a statistician on a football forum telling all the worlds scientists and experts they are wrong over a new variant of a novel decease on limited 3 week data and some morons believe him. Clueless.

Science is the distrust of science otherwise it's not science. Newton questioned Hook on his theories who thought he was right but Newton proved him wrong. Only idiots follow blindly, most likely as they don't have the mental capacity to read the report, equations and assumptions used. Only people with mathematical backgrounds will know the limitations of their models

 

[BlueAnorak]

3000 cases, 10 in hospital, none in icu on ventilation and no deaths.

That’s from the Health Minister who desperately didn’t want to divulge that info this morning in Sky.

Thanks for this.
I really don't know why they don't share this.
All they do is encourage the conspiracy theorist loons.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Science is the distrust of science otherwise it's not science. Newton questioned Hook on his theories who thought he was right but Newton proved him wrong. Only idiots follow blindly, most likely as they don't have the mental capacity to read the report, equations and assumptions used. Only people with mathematical backgrounds will know the limitations of their models

Absolute bollocks. You are a science denier. Quoting Newton doesn't change that.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Absolute bollocks.

It's called Science we wouldn't get anywhere with questioning people

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Absolute bollocks. You are a science denier. Quoting Newton doesn't change that.

lol, I have a Phd in Mathematics but if it makes you feel better call me something I'm not

 

[hammocity]

Huh, I couldn't book yesterday. Whatever site I chose, it told me there was a problem. I wasn't in a queue tho.

Now I can't get anywhere near chosing a site.

Good luck to anyone who does get an appointment, but excuse me if I'm a bit cynical at them throwing the doors open right this moment, when even over fourties like me were having trouble actually getting an appointment.

Dependent on where you live the Etihad and Stalybridge Labour Club were both doing walk ins, the latter on just Wednesdays and Thursdays.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

lol, I have a Phd in Mathematics but if it makes you feel better call me something I'm not

What's a phd in mathematics got to do with Virology or epidemiology? You are not remotely qualified to argue with the vast consenssus of the experts.

btw are you that data analysist who said there would be no 2nd wave under a new username?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Science is the distrust of science otherwise it's not science. Newton questioned Hook on his theories who thought he was right but Newton proved him wrong. Only idiots follow blindly, most likely as they don't have the mental capacity to read the report, equations and assumptions used. Only people with mathematical backgrounds will know the limitations of their models

Very wrong mate. Science has only one truth and it’s the one said by the clever looking bloke on the telly. Everyone knows that ffs………

 

[BobKowalski]

Thanks for this.
I really don't know why they don't share this.
All they do is encourage the conspiracy theorist loons.

I presume so as not to discourage people from getting boosters. While the initial data may look encouraging and may even be right, no one wants to get caught with their pants down if it’s wrong.

No one actually knows what the outcome of the new variant will be, the only thing we do know is that boosters will mitigate the risk of the new variant, so the more people getting boosters the better.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Very wrong mate. Science has only one truth and it’s the one said by the clever looking bloke on the telly. Everyone knows that ffs………

I thought it was statisticians and data analysists on football forums.

 

[PragueBlue]

I thought it was statisticians and data analysists on football forums.

They would probably end up being more accurate than some of the 'predictions' we've had.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I presume so as not to discourage people from getting boosters. While the initial data may look encouraging and may even be right, no one wants to get caught with their pants down if it’s wrong.

But it doesn't do that it just encourages loons.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

But it doesn't do that it just encourages loons.

You encourage loons by constantly telling everyone the scientists and experts are wrong despite having no expertise or qualifications to do so.

 

[Marvin]

Got my booster appointment on Friday. I was thinking of trying to get it earlier but walk-in centres say their booster doses are 'unavailable'. That needs addressing. There shouldn't be any problems with supply?

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

This thread is full of absolute lunatics.

 

[Bluewonder]

You encourage loons by constantly telling everyone the scientists and experts are wrong despite having no expertise or qualifications to do so.

He's repeatedly said he's a mathematical modeller and has criticised mathematical modelling. How much more qualified would you like him to be?

 

[Rammy Blue]

I see we'll all be shafted by Xmas. Absolute cunts making these calls.

"If you’re a contact of someone who may have been infected with the Omicron variant, you must self-isolate for 10 days, regardless of your age, vaccination status or any negative test results."

How will they know you’re a contact?

 

[Bluesince1979]

Did you hear the Welsh health minister on Sky yesterday? She said, at least twice, that Wales had 10000 covid patients in hospital with 200 in critical care.
Actual position is 286 patients in hospital with 39 on ICU!
No challenge from the interviewer and it then goes up on the sky website, so more scaremongering nonsense from the media…Ask why that is happening and you’re ‘anti science’, ‘anti-vax’ or a conspiracy nut…..

The welsh leaders are fuckin mental. Imagine that Draylsford being Pm!!! Yeah yeah i know boris is also a dick hut that welsh buffoon …

 

[Wombat]

yet you feel qualified to tell us those that have had it have more immunity than those treble vaccinated.

Goodness me. If you think natural immunity is inferior to that given by the injections, that's fine. I am not 'qualified' at all. I just read plenty of stuff, but it's up to you what you believe or think.