Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Len Rum]

Thought we were at 80k

That's people who have died within 28 days of receiving a positive covid test (nearly all of these will be from covid but it's just possible a few weren't).
The 100k is people who have died where covid is mentioned on the death certificate.

 

[mosssideblue]

That's people who have died within 28 days of receiving a positive covid test (nearly all of these will be from covid but it's just possible a few weren't).
The 100k is people who have died where covid is mentioned on the death certificate.

Cheers Len

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

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Wrexham and Flintshire - close to the Cheshire/Merseyside area where imo lower tiers made them skyrocket by importing cases from more locked down areas - are now the two most infected areas of Wales. Denbighshire which was one of the lowest now also in top half.

Wonder why? Doubtless the government will work it out by Summer.

The adjacent areas of England (Wirral, Cheshire West, Ellesmere Port, Shropshire) have all had lower per capita rates c.f. Wrexham/Flintshire for quite a while, so unfortunately your hypothesis doesnt hold water.

In any case, the thousands of cross-border movements occurring between NE Wales and Cheshire/Wirral etc. every day aren't primarily driven by people looking for leisure opportunities. It's mainly driven by travel to work, education, healthcare and other services.

 

[Healdplace]

Priti Patel Downing Street press Conference about to start on (the BBC think) the restrictions.

Data late presumably because of that.

 

[ganganvince]

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The adjacent areas of England (Wirral, Cheshire West, Ellesmere Port, Shropshire) have all had lower per capita rates c.f. Wrexham/Flintshire for quite a while, so unfortunately your hypothesis doesnt hold water.

In any case, the thousands of cross-border movements occurring between NE Wales and Cheshire/Wirral etc. every day aren't primarily driven by people looking for leisure opportunities. It's mainly driven by travel to work, education, healthcare and other services.

Spot on North Wales was in a harder lockdown than Cheshire from October

 

[ayrshire_blue]

@Healdplace Thanks as always for all the data. Do you happen to know, and apologies if you've already said, if the % positive rate is calculated differently in for example Northern Ireland to how it is in Scotland. I remember Scotland changed how it was calculated perhaps 2-3 months ago, and noticing that Northern Ireland's figure is frequently around 3x higher I wonder if it's based on 2 different calculations so perhaps not like for like?

 

[Healdplace]

1243 all settings deaths

 

[Healdplace]

45, 533 cases. Down again.

That is 15, 383 DOWN on last Tuesday btw.

 

[worsleyweb]

45, 533 cases. Down again.

That's good again - tragic number of deaths however

 

[hammocity]

Why not take a 30 minute walk and make a coffee when he gets back. Save queueing for 10 minutes and about £2.50 and extra exercise. No brainer

An old one, I used to run to work and follow the bus, saved 50p a day, mate said, run behind a taxi and save £3.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

45, 533 cases. Down again.

That is 15, 383 DOWN on last Tuesday btw.

bad deaths number again.

however the cases seem to be falling now which is good despite things like a boat party which that copper has just mentioned. Morons.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

See this is exactly the problem with all these regulations and lockdown arguments etc. Nothing wrong whatsoever with what this guy does and he probably walks with his coffee and doesn’t use it as an excuse for socialising. However, some are just doing it as a reason to flout the rules. As usual it’s just common sense, but unfortunately a large proportion of the population have no interest in playing the game correctly.

Surely you mean that a large proportion of the population have no common sense.

 

[Healdplace]

517, 549 pillar 1 & 2 tests. So 8.8% positive.

That is not low tests causing low cases.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

517, 549 pillar 1 & 2 tests. So 8.8% positive.

That is not low tests causing low cases.

even better news, thanks.

 

[hammocity]

Don't forget Fleetwood with its high proportion of smokers, druggies and junk food addicts.

I thought Joey Barton had left Fleetwood.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Glad you're up and about pal. Great news. Hopefully the rest of the family are the same.

As for those cunts. Fuck em. They're the people I wont forget when this is long over. Karma has a funny way of working and I believe it will get them in one way or another.

Agreed, let’s hope it gets my ignorant, selfish, moronic neighbours

 

[Bluemoon dan]

517, 549 pillar 1 & 2 tests. So 8.8% positive.

That is not low tests causing low cases.

I know we can't take days in isolation but I think we all need to see a corner being turned so I'm taking this as good news.

 

[gingerprince]

Healdplace quote.

"London alone at 1073 has more than a third of the record England ventilated bed patients at a shocking 3055 last night. It never went over 3000 in April.

Hopefully these will fall in the next couple of weeks as the vaccine begins to stop the oldest from needing them."


I am led to believe that ventilators are only being given to those more likely to survive so the eldest less likely to
be allocated a ventilator. Thats why % of 60s and under on ventilators is by default increasing? So vaccination of the most eldest may not impact the ventilator capacity as quickly or as significantly, as so many younger/stronger patients would still require them til number of overall cases falls and the associated time lag after that?

 

[twosips]

517, 549 pillar 1 & 2 tests. So 8.8% positive.

That is not low tests causing low cases.

I've had a strong personal feeling that a theory of mine would happen, and I think the stats are starting to show it - i felt many would bend the rules a bit over Xmas/NYE for very obvious reasons, but actually then relatively stick to the rules post new year's day. Not maybe as much as the first lockdown, but a lot more than recently. A kind of 'well, we've had our fun, so we'll take it easy during Jan/Feb' kind of mentality given they know the vaccine is now out. I may be wrong, but people are relatively predictable and I've got a feeling lots will do that. The sharp fall in case numbers does imply this! Hopefully!

 

[roubaixtuesday]

45, 533 cases. Down again.

That is 15, 383 DOWN on last Tuesday btw.

Very good news. Barring some large unknown issue with testing or results, it's looking near certain that we can control this new variant.

Now we'll see if we've finally learned the lessons of the past year:

Get cases down very low before relaxing.

Get test/track/isolate working so when we don relax, we don't lose control. Much better support for people isolating.

Reduce restrictions gradually.

If cases start to rise, respond immediately.

Control our borders, including a policed quarantine system where needed, *not* voluntary.

Unfortunately, all the political pressure seems to be the exact opposite of these.