Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

907 with 101 in the NW was the England hospital number on the last Thursday in January to compare with today's 6 with 0.

 

[BlueHammer85]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

 

[unicorn]

907 with 101 in the NW was the England hospital number on the last Thursday in January to compare with today's 6 with 0.

Seeing both the North-West and the North-East and Yorkshire report ZERO deaths today (and a Thursday as well) is really comforting in the light of growing cases (from a very low baseline).

 

[blue b4 the moon]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

Saw him this morning, it's a case of what is 'a wave'?

If we're talking infections then yes the numbers are going to go up due to both opening up & the variants but, with vaccinations rocking into the 30 odd year olds now, catching CV in almost all cases isn't going to kill people.

I'd therefore say that infections certainly alone shouldn't be called a wave. Should we get a hospital run or even worse deaths increasing then yeah we would be.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland data:

A little concerning again unfortunately. Cases well up again and hospital numbers still rising. Though as yet deaths not following. If that stays the pattern we can ride this out.


0 deaths - was 1 last week

432 cases - was 270 last week - highest in a while and more than the three nations combined over past few weeks.

1.6% positivity - was 1.2% last week

83 patients - up 5 on yesterday - was 63 last week (30% rise in a week biggest in some time)

5 ventilated - up 1 on yesterday - was 4 last week.

 

[paulchapo]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

I wish all these bloody experts would be gagged. All ithey do is spread fear and misery 24/7 and damage people's mental health. Unless we close all borders to international travel and I mean close them, not with loads of loopholes and exceptions, this is going to keep on happening. We have had other experts tell us the vaccines will protect against almost every variant and those that it doesn't they should be able to tweak them so they do

The only noise about any of this should be coming from the government in official statements. Of course if these experts think the government are lying or have got it wrong challenge them but until then STFU!!!

 

[Toney’s bookie]

I wish all these bloody experts would be gagged. All ithey do is spread fear and misery 24/7 and damage people's mental health. Unless we close all borders to international travel and I mean close them, not with loads of loopholes and exceptions, this is going to keep on happening. We have had other experts tell us the vaccines will protect against almost every variant and those that it doesn't they should be able to tweak them so they do

The only noise about any of this should be coming from the government in official statements. Of course if these experts think the government are lying or have got it wrong challenge them but until then STFU!!!

I don’t follow. Are you seriously saying we should ban international travel forever and so no one should ever be able to leave from or arrive into the UK ever again?

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland data:

Happily they seem not yet to be following the pattern. Maybe the Irish Sea is acting as a barrier?

0 deaths - was 1 last week

90 cases - was 99 last week

3.7% positivity - was 3.9% last week

4 Care Home Outbreaks - was 4 yesterday & 6 last week

7 day rolling cases 598 - was 614 yesterday & 658 last week.

37 patients - same as yesterday - was 46 last week

2 ventilated - same as yesterday - was 3 last week

 

[frothy]

I don’t follow. Are you seriously saying we should ban international travel forever and so no one should ever be able to leave from or arrive into the UK ever again?

Can't believe how many experts we have in this country, everyday MSM find a few more to scare people shitless

 

[artfuldodger]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

He also says, ‘A third wave has always been likely but its size will depend on how transmissible the variant is and how many people are vaccinated, Prof Hayward says.

So nothing we didn’t already know. Maybe a small wave.