Coronavirus (2021) thread

[paulchapo]

I don’t follow. Are you seriously saying we should ban international travel forever and so no one should ever be able to leave from or arrive into the UK ever again?

Yes! No what I meant was that isn't feasible in reality so the new variants will probably keep on popping up. I also meant that they need to close travel from countries with fast spreading new variants quicker, like India instead of dilly dallying.

 

[Healdplace]

So total deaths with out of hospital in England to add is 7

Last week was 12

And cases for the three nations with England to add are 567 (432 of those in Scotland)

Last week was 418.


Deaths going clearly the right way and cases the wrong.

That is sustainable BUT we are yet to learn how far cases will translate into hospitalisations and deaths.

Hopefully not by much.

It will be a few weeks before that is clear.

And it will determine everything about what we do next. From carry on as planned in opening to localised lockdowns to stay where we are now or even reverse to where we were two weeks ago.

 

[artfuldodger]

Wonder if this could work over here.....


A district of northern Thailand has launched a raffle campaign for its vaccinated residents to win a live cow each week for the rest of the year, in an attempt to boost the local vaccination drive.

From next month, one lucky vaccinated villager in the Mae Chaem district of Chiang Mai province will be randomly chosen every week to win a young cow worth about 10,000 baht ($318.78), Reuters reports.

The campaign, set to run for 24 weeks, has been met with enthusiasm in the town of 43,000 since it was announced earlier this week

 

[Toney’s bookie]

Can't believe how many experts we have in this country, everyday MSM find a few more to scare people shitless

Naga Whatsherface was a disgrace interviewing him on breakfast. Basically egging him on to suggest a third wave was incoming and people should start flapping.

People have lost all sense of proportion…..to suggest we should all be banished to these islands forever is just beyond stupid. Which IS what they are saying because variants will never stop appearing.

 

[frothy]

E by gum

The E by Gum Variant

 

[paulchapo]

Naga Whatsherface was a disgrace interviewing him on breakfast. Basically egging him on to suggest a third wave was incoming and people should start flapping.

People have lost all sense of proportion…..to suggest we should all be banished to these islands forever is just beyond stupid. Which IS what they are saying because variants will never stop appearing.

ITV are just as bad always urging more restrictions and lockdowns, Doctor doom Hilary is a nightmare but the housewives love him lol.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

On experts...

The reality is that the situation is uncertain. Things could go in very different ways, both in the number of cases associated with any further wave and the extent to which that could knock on to hospitalisation and death.

I've not seen any experts scare mongering. I have seen idiots (Piers Corbyn etc) and the politically motivated ("covid recovery group" of MPs etc) falsely minimising risks.

Things are far better than I would have dared hope in January 4th when the lock down was imposed after just one day of schools returning, 600 people were dying daily and rapidly rising, and we didn't know if we'd be able to stop the Kent variant at all.

We're getting there, we just can't be certain of whether we'll need a little longer than we hoped.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

What the fuck does this even mean?

The mixed messages are not helpful at all to peoples mental health.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

The UK could be at the start of a third wave of coronavirus, a government adviser has said.

Professor Andrew Hayward, a professor from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and infectious diseases expert at University College London, said he is "very concerned" about the Indian variant due to its ability to spread quickly.

"That really brings it back down to this race against the vaccine and the virus, except the virus just got faster," he told BBC Breakfast.

Asked if the country was at the start of the third wave, he said: "I think so. I think what we can see is that this strain can circulate very effectively, although it was originally imported through travel to India, it's spread fairly effectively first of all within households and now more broadly within communities, so I don't really see why it wouldn't continue to spread in other parts of the country.

"Obviously we're doing everything we can to contain the spread of that, but it's likely that more generalised measures may start to be needed to control it."

The media really need to stop the scaremongering, SAGE keep scaring everyone and seem to be enjoying the process.

 

[grunge]

The media really need to stop the scaremongering, SAGE keep scaring everyone and seem to be enjoying the process.

Would you prefer to be prepared and knowledgeable about what is happening or just happy clap and then get slapped down when the gov has to react? Id suggest the latter is far more damaging mentally.

There is literally nothing scaremongering in his comment at all, sounds reasonably well thought out.

1) There will be a 3rd wave. its inevitable the same way the 2nd wave was inevitable. there will be a lot of cases, hopefully a far smaller % wise of those will end in hospital and a lot less % of those will end up dead due to the level of vaccines now.
2) we are racing to vaccinate people, that's pretty obvious to everyone.
3) the Indian Variant spreads quicker than the Original and the Kent Variant. so the virus has got quicker. we need to up the vaccinations to match.
4) we are surge testing and surge vaccinating to smother hotspots at the source.... that will fail in the long run, its a mitigating factor, which leads back to point 1.