Coronavirus (2021) thread

[MillionMilesAway]

It's not really to stop losing efficacy, it's to boost it. Adjuvants increase the bodies ability to recognise the vaccine and increase the immune response, so you get better protection.

Yes, correct. I think that's the same thing I meant from a different perspective.

"diluting the antigen quantity without losing efficacy" - i.e. so you can use less active agent per dose because the adjuvant makes it work better.

 

[Healdplace]

None to her or my knowledge, which is why it came as a surprise. Actually thought my Dad would be first as he has a long list of underlying health conditions. They don’t live in a city so that may have something to do with it.

Hope your friend gets it soon.

Me too. I will ask her to pester them but she is not the kind to do so.

I guess it will come down to local factors too. But if stories like this come out we will end up with vaccine envy driven by the media and there will be black market vaccines to jump the cue which will likely be #scams on desperate older people.

That is my only real concern. If we genuinely have lots of doses it really does not matter. But if the actual vulnerable are not being reached and anyone who asks gets them that will create issues.

And I do struggle not to think that kind of chaos is possible given the track record so far of how we have administered things in government.

But great news for your mum. Just suggest she does not make a thing out of it as it might get others who have not been contacted thinking if they pester the NHS they can get it too.

And I don't think that will help.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Not a shock given what we've already learned, but good news nonetheless.

I hope the presence of the 'immunological memory' means people are effectively protected.

Would seem to be two different things to me. Like having a fire extinguisher installed for 8 months, and the place not burning down during that time. Sorry I couldn't come up with a milder image for that metaphor!

The possible extent of reinfection concerns me. Due to the mechanics of testing and the criteria for statistically reporting reinfection, it's likely to be very under-represented in the data. Unless there's 12 weeks symptom free between the cases, then it's classed as long covid.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Here’s a little positive story, of no great consequence but thought I’d share, that my mither-in-law who is 78 accompanied my father-in-law who is 84 for him to have his second Pfizer jab and whilst there she asked cheekily whether they could give her a jab and incredibly they obliged, told her to roll sleeve up and whacked it in there and then.

Nice to see a bit of red tape being ignored for once!

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

You cant be getting elderly and people with serious conditions out during the night

There are plenty of other people that could be vaccinated during these times.

Anyway I appear to now have some symptoms, went for a test today, fingers crossed it comes back negative, my wife and eldest now off work self isolating awaiting test. Need to arrange for some shopping somehow. All rather annoying especially as i have only been out walking our dog, so if i do have it no idea how i caught it? :-(

 

[Healdplace]

REGIONAL SCOREBOARD THE SOUTH

EAST 7408 - down from 7892.

LONDON 14, 892 - up from 14, 700

SOUTH EAST 9567 - down from 10, 893

SOUTH WEST 3223 - up from 2972

 

[kaz7]

There are plenty of other people that could be vaccinated during these times.

Anyway I appear to now have some symptoms, went for a test today, fingers crossed it comes back negative, my wife and eldest now off work self isolating awaiting test. Need to arrange for some shopping somehow. All rather annoying especially as i have only been out walking our dog, so if i do have it no idea how i caught it? :-(

That is not good lovely , i send you the warmest of good wishes and hope it comes back negative

 

[Healdplace]

REGIONAL SCOREBOARD THE MIDLANDS


EAST MIDLANDS 3662 - up from 3386

WEST MIDLANDS 6139 - up from 5256

 

[kaz7]

Here’s a little positive story, of no great consequence but thought I’d share, that my mither-in-law who is 78 accompanied my father-in-law who is 84 for him to have his second Pfizer jab and whilst there she asked cheekily whether they could give her a jab and incredibly they obliged, told her to roll sleeve up and whacked it in there and then.

Nice to see a bit of red tape being ignored for once!

That was like the first old chap here that had it , he literally called the hospital and said can i have it and they said ok , pays to be cheeky now i reckon

 

[Rammy Blue]

That was like the first old chap here that had it , he literally called the hospital and said can i have it and they said ok , pays to be cheeky now i reckon

She had to accompany him as he suffers from dementia, and just thought nothing ventured and all that so just asked in theory to save time as she would be in the next set of people anyway. Would have been easy for the people to be jobsworths and refuse but good to see common sense prevail.