Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Another 1,564 coronavirus deaths have been reported in the UK - the highest daily figure since the pandemic began following the late addition of some data going as far back as May.

The previous highest increase was 1,325, which was reported on 8 January.

It takes the total number of deaths within 28 days of a positive COVID-19 test to 84,767.
 
I have what I think is a simple COVID related question but I'm going wrong somewhere on google because I can't find the simple answer. I don't doubt it will be on the thread somewhere So help appreciated from the experts here :)

My daughter, who lives with me, was tested positive and our respective self-isolation ends shortly. She is fine now and returns to an office based NHS job at the weekend where there is the inevitable risk of further exposure to COVID.

Is it a case she would have to catch it again (presumably very low chance in the shorter term ) for her to be able to infect me?
 
Awful death toll, but the national caseload continues below 50,000 for the third day in a row.

Which continues to suggest this new variant can be suppressed with lockdown measures, something by no means certain when it first emerged. So the vaccination programme has a good chance of catching up with the virus before it has the chance to burn through the whole population.
 
Those numbers are truly horrific a full lockdown is needed asap
I agree. I think I was just expressing my frustration that this thread saw this coming for weeks and the nation just sat and watched as nothing happened as if it was just inevitable.

It felt as if the decision was it was easier to remind we should just be careful out there like in Hill Street Blues without mentioning the rapists, maniacs, gunmen they might encounter as that was a given every day.

As a society we have been led into just being frustrated and fed up and aware on some level this is a terrible disease but it likely is not going to impact on ourselves so we can just inch by inch take steps that tread across the boundaries and turn them into yards and miles as time goes by.

Maybe that is just what people have to do when an apocalypse looms - hope for the best and assume there is not much we can do to stop it anyway and hope Bruce Willis is ready to save the day.

Perhaps that is where we are. In the hands of fate as no leader could have done a thing about this.

And the more you know about the data and question if that is actually true the harder it is to accept what looks like sleepwalking towards the edge of a cliff and watching it happen.

So I apologise if it looked like I was blaming those on here. I wasn't really.

Sometimes it perhaps is wise not to know what is coming as when you do there lies the path to madness.

No doubt Whitty and co would’ve strongly recommended sooner action, but they are only advisers. If the govt fail to take that advice, what can you do? Some people should end up in court, once this is over.
 
Any reason as to why? I thought we already secured millions
Last I read was that we have the vaccines but its actually a shortage of the glass vials they go into that is a bottle neck.

plus "securing" millions means we have bought them, doesn't mean they are actually here yet. could still be getting produced.

world vaccines are going to be like buying a PS5 soon.
 
It was talked about in the first wave , women are faring a lot worse in this wave according to the ONS
Yes, that is true Kaz. I looked at the data myself. I think partly as men are more likely to be smokers and that is a huge risk. And that women live longer on average and so the proportion of women over 80 is much higher and higher than it was pre the cull of the men in the first wave.
 
Any reason as to why? I thought we already secured millions

"Secured" yes, as in committed to by the supplier, but not necessarily bulk manufactured, filled in to vials, tested and released into the supply chain.

There doesn't seem to be any transparency on what the true status on those steps are. Talk is that the testing is currently the bottleneck, but I've no idea what the reality is.

I would not be surprised if there are hiccoughs in supply from all of these manufacturers - scaling up in such a rapid fashion is not easy.
 
The prime minister is asked about a new Brazilian variant of coronavirus and says ministers are "very concerned" about it.

He adds there are "lots of questions" still to be answered about the new variant, including whether it is vaccine resistant

Boris Johnson is in front of the liaison committee and faces his first question from Jeremy Hunt, the chair of the health and social care committee, who asks about the current situation in the NHS.

Mr Johnson says the "strain is colossal" on hospitals with "very considerable" pressure.

He adds the "risk is very substantial" of intensive care capacity being exceeded, as he urges people to follow the lockdown rules

Liaison commitee today
 
Last I read was that we have the vaccines but its actually a shortage of the glass vials they go into that is a bottle neck.

I think (but don't know) that's a misunderstanding. It's not the number of vials but the capacity to fill them which is the issue, I think. It's contracted to a firm in Wrexham for the UK, and to dozens of similar firms worldwide. You can imagine that validating processes at dozens of sites simultaneously is not easy.
 
Everyone is numb to it. Quick look around social media, hardly anyone is arsed. Absolutely insane.
 
Last I read was that we have the vaccines but its actually a shortage of the glass vials they go into that is a bottle neck.

plus "securing" millions means we have bought them, doesn't mean they are actually here yet. could still be getting produced.

world vaccines are going to be like buying a PS5 soon.
I posted that problem in here a week or two ago but it was flat out denied if I recall. So I never pursued it.

We will see soon whether it was cock up, cover up or false story leaked via the media.

Frankly these days anything could be any of those things.
 
I think (but don't know) that's a misunderstanding. It's not the number of vials but the capacity to fill them which is the issue, I think. It's contracted to a firm in Wrexham for the UK, and to dozens of similar firms worldwide. You can imagine that validating processes at dozens of sites simultaneously is not easy.

Yeah the logistics of this are immense. and only going to get more complex as more countries jump on them and the supply chains get stretched.

there is only a finite manufacturing capacity and 7bn people all demanding it NOW.
 
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