Coronavirus (2021) thread

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This is the sort of thing that worries me post Covid. Whether some public services will never go back to 'normal'

COVID is the kind of upheaval that I think will cause many, many things to change forever. But impossible to predict what and how.
 
Don’t think so think if they get over 75% of all age ranges done and over 85% of the first 9 groups thats fine, and I think we will.

We are at 81% of all adults in England having a first jab, it's nearly 90% in Wales

The chart above has been updated to reflect ONS population estimates

 
It is pointless seeking who to blame over all this. You only have to look at the different way Europe is reacting to see there is no actual right or wrong path.

Places like Germany want to be ultra cautious and ban all Brits from going there without strict restrictions even if double vaccinated in a desperate attempt to stop Delta taking over. Given how they are surrounded by other countries with land borders that likely will get it they face a long fight to get there and Britain will soon not be their main concern. Indeed cases will be falling here thanks to our higher vaccination numbers.

Whereas the holiday nations that need Brits now not 3 months from now to save some of the Summer will use vaccine passports to compromise and risk Delta getting in.

Right or wrong is not where we are. Finding a path that balances risk and reward is for everyone now.
Germany has an average cases per 1 million count the last seven days of 52 cases - the UK 1506.

53.6 are vaccinated with the first shot, 35.6 % are fully vaccinated

Right now the delta variant is still spread very low in Germany. It will come to us, but the German interest is to stop that process as long as possible until more people have their vaccinations. (Daily rate of vaccinations is about 1 million). That is why there is a 14 day quarantine even for fully vaccinated people and without nearly no exception for people that come (back) from virusvariant areas - not just from England, but now e.g. Portugal, too.

Global dates about vaccinations: https://pandemicend.info/ (the numbers I had from Germany were from another source)
 
I'm hearing of loads of people catching it in the last few days. I suspect most are finding out by self testing and not putting it in the system which would suggest the current reported cases are the tip of the iceberg. On the plus side I'm not hearing of anyone being particularly ill because it's mostly young people who've had one jab.
 
I'm hearing of loads of people catching it in the last few days. I suspect most are finding out by self testing and not putting it in the system which would suggest the current reported cases are the tip of the iceberg. On the plus side I'm not hearing of anyone being particularly ill because it's mostly young people who've had one jab.

We had to isolate a few weeks back due to exposure, the Dad of the family, 51 and double jabbed got what he classed as the worst flu/cold of his life. thought it was borderline on having to call an ambulance.


thankfully neither of us got it ( or had symptoms at least )
 
Case numbers continuing that exponential rise, maybe a bit faster even.

Vaccinations now averaging 350k and falling; 175k completely vaxxed if two doses required.

Cases at 20kish reported, guess 60k in reality. Plus cases only hit the susceptible population.

Another fortnight on current trends and there could be as many people becoming immune through infection as vaccination.

Hard to imagine we won't see signs of growth starting to ease over that time, otherwise it could go properly tits up.

And 60k at Wembley, 140k at Silverstone a really bad idea if we don't see some signs of improvement soon.
 
Case numbers continuing that exponential rise, maybe a bit faster even.

Vaccinations now averaging 350k and falling; 175k completely vaxxed if two doses required.

Cases at 20kish reported, guess 60k in reality. Plus cases only hit the susceptible population.

Another fortnight on current trends and there could be as many people becoming immune through infection as vaccination.

Hard to imagine we won't see signs of growth starting to ease over that time, otherwise it could go properly tits up.

And 60k at Wembley, 140k at Silverstone a really bad idea if we don't see some signs of improvement soon.
But, crucially, hospitalisations remain relatively static at just over 200/day. When cases were at a similar level in Oct last year, hospitalisations were around 1000/day.
 
Sorted that for you.
Can never really be arsed getting into the conversation with them when having a pint after game, may as well talk to the wall when you immediately hear comments like “not having that shit put in to me”.

Just pointing out that’s the kind of issues we have in that age group.
 
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