Coronavirus (2021) thread

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I'd anticipate we wouldn't be socialising in the same circles anyway given their condition.
What a dick!
In many many cases you would have no idea you were with a cancer survivor.
Tim Spall for instance, survived leukaemia, you wouldn’t know.
Thousands of breast cancer survivors, you wouldn’t know.
 
If you want to carry on wearing a mask then fine but as there will be no legal requirement from the 19th it will be entirely a matter of personal choice.

My choice will be not to wear one in any setting as where we are now is more or less as good as it gets. Covid has joined the long list of potential health risks that we all have to live with. A ‘good’ flu season results in around 6000 deaths annually whereas a bad one is around 22,000. I don’t recall mask wearing to eliminate that risk.
It's your personal choice, but what's the harm carrying one for situations where it may help protect others ? Not just from covid but anything you may be carrying or spreading if you are feeling unwell, and going into a crowded situation.
That's what I don't get I just don't see any harm or hardship in it, so why not.
 
If you want to carry on wearing a mask then fine but as there will be no legal requirement from the 19th it will be entirely a matter of personal choice.

My choice will be not to wear one in any setting as where we are now is more or less as good as it gets. Covid has joined the long list of potential health risks that we all have to live with. A ‘good’ flu season results in around 6000 deaths annually whereas a bad one is around 22,000. I don’t recall mask wearing to eliminate that risk.
People used to laugh at students from the far east wearing masks but maybe they had a point and a level of mask wearing in busy public places might also reduce the numbers of people catching flu which wouldn't be a bad thing. Shouldn't be mandated long term but it wouldn't be a bad thing if people chose to wear them on crowded buses and trains for example.
 
It's your personal choice, but what's the harm carrying one for situations where it may help protect others ? Not just from covid but anything you may be carrying or spreading if you are feeling unwell, and going into a crwded situation.
That's what I don't get I just don't see any harm or hardship in it, so why not.
There are of course idiots who believe whatever right-wing propaganda is posted in the news - ah ha! That Tucker Carlson episode on Fox News proves that I need not be vaccinated.

To those slow in mind to process the actual risks - well, good fucking luck. Some of you will die, unnecessarily. And others of you will spread COVID to those who cannot receive the vaccine and who will die.
 
Many Cancer sufferers and survivors are finding the vaccine does not work. Their immune suppressed systems do not produce antibodies.
Many vulnerable people cannot be protected from the virus or people like you.
Genuine question - what did they used to do before Covid when other diseases were circulating? As I say, genuine question, I don't know anyone in that situation so I have nobody to ask.
 
Mask wearing, never having been promoted as a mitigative measure - well then, your recollection is correct.

What about vaccination then? Are you vaccinated? Will you receive COVID booster vaccinations? Or flu vaccinations for that matter?
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There is an obvious personal benefit from receiving initial COVID vaccination - and although there's yet no evidence either way - one may easily drawn the near certain inference the COVID booster vaccinations will be similarly beneficial.
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By the tone of your post, you're all about personal choice. It's your "personal choice" not to be vaccinated.

Well, true... except that you "personal choice" impacts others. Not everyone is able to safely receive COVID vaccination - for example, children at this point in time - and other individuals due to unassociated health risks.

So yeah, exercise your "personal choice" at the possible expense of children and those unable to receive the vaccine. Good on you! You fucking patriot! Oh - and if you contract COVID as a result of your "personal choice" - as the USA National Rifle Association would say - "Our thoughts and prayers are with you." Idiot!
There’s nothing like jumping to conclusions, is there.

I’ve been fully vaccinated since early May and I have complied with all restrictions. However those restrictions end on the 19th and at that point I will return to living my life as I had done pre Covid.

You come across as a sanctimonious Guardianista :)
 
There’s nothing like jumping to conclusions, is there.

I’ve been fully vaccinated since early May and I have complied with all restrictions. However those restrictions end on the 19th and at that point I will return to living my life as I had done pre Covid.

You come across as a sanctimonious Guardianista :)
And you, come across as a responsible citizen whom I'd welcome as a neighbor. As opposed to the fucking idiots prevalent mostly in rural American who refuse to be vaccinated.
 
Whose comparing, it’s about different strategies for different circumstances but there are some common denominators about what works and what doesn’t. Everyone knows we locked down too late in the first wave. Everyone knows we should have shut down travel with India weeks earlier. Hiding behind the demographics of New Zealand doesn’t change those facts.
I wasn't hiding behind anything! I agree we should have shut down India and many other places weeks beforehand. I think that mistake was unforgivable. But bringing NZ into the discussion is pointless for the reason I stated.
 
And you, come across as a responsible citizen whom I'd welcome as a neighbor. As opposed to the fucking idiots prevalent mostly in rural American who refuse to be vaccinated.
Ah, the old 'it's full of microchips so we can be controlled by Bill Gates' extolled by people who clearly have even less grasp of electronics than they do of biology. I've seen the actual microchips that you put in dogs to track them and you should see the size of the needle. Bet that f*cking hurts!
 
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