Coronavirus (2021) thread

[mancity1]

I’m sure there will be. Treatments will improve and hopefully a cure will be found.

Agreed about treatments there are already some encouraging signs about some used to India to reduce death totals due to the inability of their public health system to cope with the virus spread however like the common cold the virus in its guises will always be around.

Difficult to kill this type of virus a bit like killing the common cold.

Lucky for humans we are blessed with an immune system of sorts.

If some bright spark can find a way of increasing the size of its basic structure from a fraction of a nanometer to 10 centimetres for example through AI then we can render it useless as far its ability to move into our cells and reproduce.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I don’t know how people can say it’s not right or a tough decision to open up.

The below graph is key, rising cases are completely irrelevant when the number of deaths and hospitalisations are so low and have been for a considerable amount of time.

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Its 8 days behind mind.
Where is that published?

 

[twosips]

Astrazeneca barely being used as its not recommended for under 40s. Moderna and Pfizer still in far less supply than AZ

I wonder if this will change. Feels inevitable as the only reason they stopped it was the risk ratio considering lower prevalence etc. If it's gonna rocket again then surely the risk changes loads.

 

[BlueAnorak]

It’s silently telling that they won’t publish their modelling as to how they think it will go.

Sorry to disappoint, but that's being published sometime over the next 4 days.

 

[SWP's back]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL NUMBERS - VENTILATORS

No more encouraging here sadly,

Another steady rise.

Up 24 in the day to 377 - was 264 last week - which was up just 5

Unfortunately these lag behind patients and presage more NW deaths as these are still the worst in the UK let alone England in the region.

Up again by 6 to 123 - highest in the UK and in months here. That is a rise of 32 in the past 7 days, Not good.

Midlands and Yorkshire not doing well either,

Midlands up 6 to 64 - was 39 last week

And Yorkshire up 11 to 66 - was 29 last week - which is the worst and Yorkshire looks set to take over from the NW in coming weeks for the worst death numbers I suspect based on this =.

But not yet. There will be a lag,

Other regions as yet doing comparatively OK. London only up over the week from 71 to 74.


NORTHERN IRELAND 43 PATIENTS (up 6 on day) & 1 VENTILATOR

SCOTLAND 387 PATIENTS (up 41 on day) & 34 VENTILATORS (up 2 on day)

WALES 59 PATIENTS (down 1 on day) & 7 VENTILATORS (down 1 on day)

TOTAL HERE :- 489 PATIENTS & 42 VENTILATORS


SO THE UK TOTAL TODAY STANDS AT:-

2633 PATIENTS AND 419 VENTILATORS


There were last more patients on 10 April and ventilators on 8 April,].

I’d love to know what percentage of those on ventilators are unvaccinated vs vaccinated.

 

[BlueAnorak]

DATA 1 July NOTE.

I suggest you read the past few days of my hospital reports posted in here for actual up to date numbers. As they have escalated a lot in the past week as they always lag cases. And cases are now rising everywhere as Delta is no longer a localised problem.

Those graphs are not entirely untrue. And the escalation is nothing like it was last winter as I have just shown in my posts on the previous page,

But the graphs are out of date and a bit misleading as to where we are now.

We are not going near the 39,000 we had in hospital with Covid in January.

But we are also not going to be at just 3000 or so as I had hoped a week or so ago,

And if we get to 10K that will start to stress the health service.

The main reason (though others mentioned by posters above are also true) that we are opening up is that this escalation now is safer than in winter when other illnesses will stress the NHS already - so delaying the inevitable is a mistake. Calculated gamble as it still is to do so now.

Kind of depends on how long people are hospitalised for with breathing difficulties.
2 weeks ago, 80% were discharged within 7 days.

 

[Marvin]

A cure for a virus?

Block its replication. See Tamiflu.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I’d love to know what percentage of those on ventilators are unvaccinated vs vaccinated.

And whether deaths are OF or WITH Covid.
Many who died WITH would have died anyway. It's one if the reasons why German deaths look so low.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Sorry to disappoint, but that's being published sometime over the next 4 days.

When the pressure gets too much, I really hope it is released. How can anyone make an informed decision as how to proceed.

 

[splinter]

Looks like the Delta variant will become the predominant strain in the US in a couple of weeks.
Vaccination slowed right down and only 47% fully vaccinated.

In a recent poll 49% of Americans said they wouldn't take the vaccine- dr John Campbell latest video.