Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BobKowalski]

We’ve got some data, to be fair.

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That’s 15 months of data. To plan an appropriate response to Covid you need a decade or so. How the virus mutates, weather pattern spread, how it reacts to vaccines after a year, two years, booster effectiveness, in short everything.

I’ve said it before but we, meaning everyone, are ground zero when it comes to data, we are the first data entry points. The world is conducting a giant trial and the outcome is unknown. We can guess, hope, based on current trajectories, but no one knows the outcome and we won’t know the outcome, or be certain about the outcome, for a few years yet.

Hence countries taking an abundance of caution approach. The alternative is bad risk management.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

That’s 15 months of data. To plan an appropriate response to Covid you need a decade or so. How the virus mutates, weather pattern spread, how it reacts to vaccines after a year, two years, booster effectiveness, in short everything.

I’ve said it before but we, meaning everyone, are ground zero when it comes to data, we are the first data entry points. The world is conducting a giant trial and the outcome is unknown. We can guess, hope, based on current trajectories, but no one knows the outcome and we won’t know the outcome, or be certain about the outcome, for a few years yet.

Hence countries taking an abundance of caution approach. The alternative is bad risk management.

It is if the only risk to public health is coronavirus. Sadly, as you well know, it isn’t. The collateral damage we are inflicting on society will be measured in decades not years and this relentless focus on one thing, at the expense of absolutely everything else, won’t end well.

 

[BobKowalski]

It is if the only risk to public health is coronavirus. Sadly, as you well know, it isn’t. The collateral damage we are inflicting on society will be measured in decades not years and this relentless focus on one thing, at the expense of absolutely everything else, won’t end well.

It isn’t the only risk, it may not even be the major risk to public health, but it is the only unknown risk to public health.

Everything else we can quantify, or think we can live with, even though the cost in mental health and delays to other treatments are catastrophic for individuals.

I‘m not saying the approach taken is right, I have no idea if it’s right, unfortunately no one does, but I do understand why this approach has been taken.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I’m pretty certain the figures (if they are broken down by vax/no vax) will show the same as the high levels of frontline evidence.

AND it’s not rocket science to see that 7% population making over 50% of cases, will lead to…

My guess is a rapid onset if cases then a complete collapse pretty quickly.

 

[BlueAnorak]

As if by magic, god help us….

Israel on brink of lockdown after scrapping face masks & social distancing

ISRAEL is on the brink of lockdown just a month after scrapping face masks and social distancing rules. With the Delta variant continuing to spread across the country, many fear that Israel will be…

www.thesun.co.uk

Need to keep face masks and social distancing. Everything else can go.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Don’t. Mention. The. Kiwis.

Lol.
Can't see them being able to open up for years.

 

[antspider]

I thought a huge amount of Israel have been jabbed.. Surprised at the threat of a lockdown.. Not clicking on the “suns” link

 

[bluethrunthru]

Apart from anything else.....this is a frightening thought for someone at her door.

On Saturday morning, she told Instagram followers that she had been trying to flout restrictions in her hotel by answering her door naked and without a face mask.

Nobody deserves to see that - its surely dealt with by the Geneva Convention in the Hopkins Minge subclause?

 

[bluethrunthru]

I thought a huge amount of Israel have been jabbed.. Surprised at the threat of a lockdown.. Not clicking on the “suns” link

They got the Delta in I think and as a result they went back to mask wearing - looks like its getting worse - Johnsons a clown opening us up and dispensing with masks

 

[BlueAnorak]

No it didn’t Marvin. The strict isolation facilities and procedures in Wuhan did most of that.

Immunity is the end point, particularly through vaccination, but herd immunity as a strategy has been a disaster for our Country. That’s a fact.

But vaccination gets us to the point where herd immunity can happen.