Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Even if he did, a lot of people that age don't know they do have underlying health issues because they've not yet manifested themselves, so foolish to play roulette with your life in the hope you haven't.

Very true. Look I think the bloke is a total berk but you have to be careful with these stories.

I'm sure there's loads of 30-40yr something nutters just like him who spout the same nonsense but have got away with having Covid scot free.

I.e basically the media are going out of their way to report a death or two when loads have recovered in the same boat.
 
I.e basically the media are going out of their way to report a death or two when loads have recovered in the same boat.
How many avoidable deaths would you like to see? What’s your limit? The media are actually, for once, doing society a favour if they are doing as you say. Why do we “have to be careful”?
 
Some extraordinarily high week to week falls. Not seen so many in one go. In seven days Wigan down 331 is unprecedented in one go

These drops are so large it's hard to believe they truly reflect the change in transmission of the virus over the week. Particularly because they seem to be almost uniform across the country, which isn't what you'd expect if it was a herd immunity thing.

That's not at all to suggest that they're faked, or anything like that, I'm sure they genuinely show the level of positive tests.

But perhaps there's something going on here with people being less likely to come forward for testing with the end of restrictions and not wanting to isolate through holidays? Plus maybe many people reacted to "freedom day" by keeping the hell away from the unmasked revellers out to lick as many people as possible??

Anyway, surely at least some of this must be real and excellent news.
 
These drops are so large it's hard to believe they truly reflect the change in transmission of the virus over the week. Particularly because they seem to be almost uniform across the country, which isn't what you'd expect if it was a herd immunity thing.

That's not at all to suggest that they're faked, or anything like that, I'm sure they genuinely show the level of positive tests.

But perhaps there's something going on here with people being less likely to come forward for testing with the end of restrictions and not wanting to isolate through holidays? Plus maybe many people reacted to "freedom day" by keeping the hell away from the unmasked revellers out to lick as many people as possible??

Anyway, surely at least some of this must be real and excellent news.

Don’t want to sound negative- but with restrictions all back open, I think people with a cold and some of the symptoms just don’t bother getting tested now as for many it’s not worth the hassle isolating and getting time off work etc.
 
Greater Manchester

Weekly total cases:-





Bury 873 , Trafford 1107 , Rochdale 1209, Bolton 1256, Tameside 1291, Stockport 1474, Oldham 1501, Salford 1584, Wigan 2018, Manchester 2630

Some huge falls today. Bury back under 1000. Wigan almost below 2000. Everyone was heading in the right direction today,
 
These drops are so large it's hard to believe they truly reflect the change in transmission of the virus over the week. Particularly because they seem to be almost uniform across the country, which isn't what you'd expect if it was a herd immunity thing.

That's not at all to suggest that they're faked, or anything like that, I'm sure they genuinely show the level of positive tests.

But perhaps there's something going on here with people being less likely to come forward for testing with the end of restrictions and not wanting to isolate through holidays? Plus maybe many people reacted to "freedom day" by keeping the hell away from the unmasked revellers out to lick as many people as possible??

Anyway, surely at least some of this must be real and excellent news.
As I say my only true guide is the current hospital data pattern matching the expected lag to the fall in cases in Scotland and North West in admissions and to a degree ventilators and deaths are starting to equalise too as the other regions are going up and three have overtaken the NW in the past week.

These are obviously more real than any test anomaly. As you can non test out of missing work but not so easily out of being sick enough to be hospitalised,

And as THOSE numbers are what matter anyway as opposed to how many tests are positive if most of those are just a test number not a concern for the NHS.

Yes, the spread they might trigger will be another matter if unidentified cases are happening due to this trend. But that was always going to happen when you open up to normality. People will embrace that normality not look for reasons to have more weeks off work.

As we have both said we need to watch where this goes in the next week or so. That will tell us more.
 
Don’t want to sound negative- but with restrictions all back open, I think people with a cold and some of the symptoms just don’t bother getting tested now as for many it’s not worth the hassle isolating and getting time off work etc.
I suspect you are correct. In my area the council bin services have been disrupted by staff being pinged and supposedly having to isolate. It didn't stop a bunch of them (who I recognised) enjoying a Pingday drink in one of our local pub beer gardens.
I don't want to be too cynical but I think this sort of activity may also be matched by the number of people doing their second jobs but still getting furlough cash or as they call it round here "Covid double bubble."
 
How many avoidable deaths would you like to see? What’s your limit? The media are actually, for once, doing society a favour if they are doing as you say. Why do we “have to be careful”?

Agree with this. As much as I think the media have been scummy throughout, things like this should be reported to hopefully shut a few anti vax idiots up.
 
Scotland Data

THIS IS STILL FALLING BUT HOSPITAL NUMBERS ARE DOWN WEEK TO WEEK BUT UNSURE IF THEY ARE STARTING TO TICK UP SLIGHTLY AGAIN.

AND TAYSIDE LAB APPARENTLY HAVE AN ISSUE OVER PAST 3 DAYS THAT IS BEING INVESTIGATED

0 deaths - was 0 last week

1237 cases - was 1735 last week

7.5% positivity - was 9.8% last week

AS I KEEP SAYING AS IT IS TRUE THIS MATTERS THE MOST AS IT MEANS CASES ARE FALLING IN PERCENTAGE POSITIVE NUMBERS NOT JUST ACTUAL NUMBERS

UNLESS LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY HAVE COVID BELIEVE GOING TO THE PUB MATTERS MORE I GUESS SO DELIBERATELY AVOID TESTING DISPROPRTTIONATELY TO THOSE WHO WANT T KNOW

POSSIBLE I GUESS

480 Patients - up 2 on yesterday - was 511 last week STILL DOWN BUT MAY BE SLOWLY EDGING UP AGAIN

64 Ventilated icu - up 4 on yesterday - was 46 last week

THIS NEEDS TO BE CLEARLY FALLING BEFORE WE GET TOO EXCITED - THOUGH THERE IS A LAG WE SHOULD BE SEEING THIS AS WE ARE IN THE NORTH WEST.

IF THE FALLS IN CASES ARE DOWN TO APATHY IN TESTING THAT WILL REDUCE CASES BUT NOT THOSE THAT GET SERIOUS ENOUGH TO GO TO THIS POINT SO IF THESE FALL WE KNOW IT IS FOR REAL
 
Data finally up.

31, 795 cases as we knew

86 all settings deaths - as we did not.

That means 74 in England - so a high number here from A Friday.

It was jut 35 last Friday,

Deaths lag cases by a week or two remember, So these come from before these case falls.

North West was still the highest region on 17 deaths yesterday,
Cases falling though - and the number of deaths from Delta is still far less than an average flu season.
 
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