Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA:

ADMISSIONS (WEDNESDAY) 728 - down from from 816 Tuesday AND from 783 last Wednesday.

These numbers flattening over past couple of weeks has been another clear indicator that the fall in cases was not an illusion as illusionary unseen cases do not stop you needing medical care,

However, there was an unexpected influx from the North West on Wednesday.137 patients on that day - most in a while.

Hopefully just a blip as cases have been falling - but up from 118 Tuesday AND 134 the Wednesday before.


Yorkshire still had more admissions - 170 - but down from 212 Tuesday and 205 the Wednesday before.

London admitted 106 V 126 week before and Midlands 131 V 146 week before.

 

[Dadsupportedthem]

Any anti-vaxers in here? One of my mates has lost it. Doesn't even know the point he is trying to make half the time, with the amount of conspiracy theories he is invested in. Sad to see as he is super smart and an loveable bloke. But fuck there is only so much of the shite I will listen to, especially if he is influencing others with his dangerous diatribes.

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA PATIENTS

There are 5111 patients in hospital today

UP 55 today,

Last Friday they went up 171 on the day to 4401.

This week was a weekly increase of 710 - lowest in some time.

The previous week rose by 1034 From 3367 to 4401

 

[Gray]

China getting outbreaks of the Delta variant, personally I don’t trust them at all.

 

[Gogootz]

Any anti-vaxers in here? One of my mates has lost it. Doesn't even know the point he is trying to make half the time, with the amount of conspiracy theories he is invested in. Sad to see as he is super smart and an loveable bloke. But fuck there is only so much of the shite I will listen to, especially if he is influencing others with his dangerous diatribes.

Please keep talking to him mate, you're a thread to reality for him, it's a real struggle and slog to keep challenging them I know but hopefully you can change his mind (and those who he's feeding with his shit)

In my experience those I've lost to the internet rabbit hole have been smart people with too much time on their hands.

 

[blueparrot]

Apologies if my math does not Reach the standard required to understand statistics but in layman terms what part of ", those who have been doubly vaccinated are likely to be an increasing proportion of hospital patients after catching CV? " can be misunderstood?

Take it to an extreme just as an example assume 100% had been vaccinated and it doesn’t work for 1% of them, then for a group of 1000 people 10 might end up in hospital as the vaccine didn’t work and that would mean100% of hospital cases were double jabbed.
So the higher the vaccination figure the closer you would get to those few that are hospitalised being over 50% double jabbed.

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL PATIENTS

Up on day 55 to 5111

Up from 4401 in past week. A rise of 710





REGIONS Up/down on day and V last week

EAST DOWN 11 to 361 V 302

LONDON UP 94 to 1029 V 794

MIDLANDS DOWN 45 to 931 V 858

NE & YORKSHIRE DOWN 23 to 1111 V 1026

SOUTH EAST UP 21 to 476 V 337

SOUTH WEST UP 11 to 333 V 254


AND NORTH WEST UP 8 to 870 V 830

Bit of a reversal today going up a tad but still easily the lowest week to week rise.

And two regions now over 1000 which NW peaked below up tp now.

Three other regions with over 100 more patients.

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL VENTILATED PATIENTS



Up on day 20 to 785

Up from 625 in past week. A rise of 160

Previous week was up 13 on day and from 512 to 625 - by 113 - week to week



REGIONS Up/down on day and V last week


EAST UP 2 to 63 V 43

LONDON UP 15 TO 187 V 142

MIDLANDS DOWN 2 to 145 V 113

NE & YORKSHIRE STAYS AT 159 V 122

SOUTH EAST UP 5 to 48 V 36

SOUTH WEST UP 5 to 54 V 44


AND NORTH WEST DOWN 5 to 129 V 125


North West now well behind London, Midlands and NE & Yorkshire with the smallest week to week rise

 

[Healdplace]

UK HOSPITAL NUMBERS TODAY


PATIENTS V LAST WEEK



ENGLAND 5111 V 4401

N IRELAND 232 V 239

SCOTLAND 474 V 502

WALES 138 V 120

UK TOTAL 5955 V 5262


693 up week to week - lowest increase in a month


VENTILATORS V LAST WEEK



ENGLAND 785 V 625

N IRELAND 25 V 8

SCOTLAND 60 V 57

WALES 25 V 19


UK TOTAL 895 V 709

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Sky's take on the numbers by the way.

Lots of cases going under the radar. We are living atop a powder keg of unseen cases.

Perhaps. But....

THIS is why the positivity numbers matter as do the trends and awareness that things like the ONS data survey today tell you what was happening 2 weeks ago not as of now. And, unless you look at the way tests are accumulated over 5 days to get the numbers released daily then not to see the actual day to day trend as you are looking partly at last week all the time.

You would think after 18 months of this pandemic TV Companies might be aware of how it all works. But that involves actually finding out and there are far more important stories to chase obviously.

For those pondering as in the posts last night WHY I bother to seek out and post lots of data I went looking for it to inform myself. Not to post in here. Because I knew the media would handle the pandemic this way and I wanted to look for the data direct to be sure I was seeing what was happening not what they wanted to tell us was happening or had had the nous to even look to find even if someone was telling us.

Having worked on TV shows I knew it was much easier to say what you are told to say. Not check if it is real.

The TV Companies and journalists are perfectly aware, they’re just dick heads and like to stir up some panic and furore.

Proper wankers to a man across every channel and paper.