Coronavirus (2021) thread

[frothy]

The Express never stops going on about it which is more than likely an indicator that it's not a smear campaign at all, more a series of unfortunate events leading to a loss of confidence in the AZ vaccine. The politicians haven't helped but calling it a smear campaign is stretching things a bit. Don't forget that AZ is Swedish as much as British and has a Swedish chairman and a French CEO so the EU have nothing to gain by attacking one its own most successful companies even if it is shared with the UK.

So because the Express reports it its not true? Would it be different if the Guardian or Independent reported it?

 

[Healdplace]

SCOTLAND DATA

MORE GOOD NEWS

1 death - was 0 last week

799 cases - was 1000 last week

6.5% positivity - was 8.0% last week

407 patients - down 15 on yesterday - was 475 last week

60 ventilated icu beds - down 2 on yesterday - was 65 last week

The hospital numbers going the right way is the key to this.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

So because the Express reports it its not true? Would it be different if the Guardian or Independent reported it?

When it comes to matters of the EU, Europe or Brexit anything in The Express is guaranteed to be a lie, or at least a half-truth spun so far as to make it basically a lie.

 

[frothy]

When it comes to matters of the EU, Europe or Brexit anything in The Express is guaranteed to be a lie, or at least a half-truth spun so far as to make it basically a lie.

Same the other way round with the Guardian and Independent

 

[west didsblue]

So because the Express reports it its not true? Would it be different if the Guardian or Independent reported it?

The Express is about as factually correct as the Beano, and about as funny.

Even compared to the Mail, Sun and Telegraph it's a comic that specialises in parodies.

 

[blueparrot]

So because the Express reports it its not true? Would it be different if the Guardian or Independent reported it?

If he Guardian and independent report something it may not be true, if the Express report it , it's pretty much guaranteed not to be true.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Same the other way round with the Guardian and Independent

Not really. They are left wing r centre left papers and many, although not all, articles are from people with an anti-Brexit opinion. But unlike The Express, they are not known as newspapers who lie outragiously and repeatedly.

Daily Express Forced To Remove List Of Things We'd 'Get Back' If We Left The EU Because It Wasn't True | HuffPost UK (huffingtonpost.co.uk)

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS:

SATURDAY 36 with 9 NW - last wk 58 with 14 & wk before 41 with 14

SUNDAY 21 with 11 NW - last wk 12 with 3 NW & wk before 10 with 4

MONDAY 7 with 5 NW - last wk 5 with 1 NW & wk before 11 with 6


NW still contributing the most deaths - legacy of when cases were high.

BUT these numbers are edging up not shooting up,

Over the past 3 weekends 64 v 75 v 62 NW 25 V 18 V 24

 

[west didsblue]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS:

SATURDAY 36 with 9 NW - last wk 58 with 14 & wk before 41 with 14

SUNDAY 21 with 11 NW - last wk 12 with 3 NW & wk before 10 with 4

MONDAY 7 with 5 NW - last wk 5 with 1 NW & wk before 11 with 6


NW still contributing the most deaths - legacy of when cases were high.

BUT these numbers are edging up not shooting up,

Over the past 3 weekends 64 v 75 v 62 NW 25 V 18 V 24

If it's plateauing at this level, that is something we could learn to live with quite easily. With typical deaths from all causes at around 9000 per week for this time of year the proportion that are Covid related will be quite a way down the list and well into the noise of typical week to week variations. In fact, from the graph below, the third wave hasn't noticeably registered at all on the UK death rate thanks to the vaccination programme.

 

[Healdplace]

ENGLAND HOSPITAL DEATHS BY REGION:

SAT + SUN + MON

EAST 4 + 2 + 1 = 7

LONDON 4 + 0 + 0 = 4

MIDLANDS 7 + 7 + 0 = 14

NE & YORKS 8 + 0 + 0 = 8

NORTH WEST 9 + 11 + 5 = 25

SOUTH EAST 3 + 0 + 0 = 3

SOUTH WEST 1 + 1 + 1 = 3


NW DEATHS BT TRUST

SAT East Lancashire 2, Pennine Acute 2, 1 each in Alder Hey (Liverpool), Chester, Salford, St Helens, Warrington.

SUN Liverpool 8, Manchester 3

MON Lancashire 2, Liverpool 2, Tameside 1

Liverpool at 11 over the weekend the big driver.

There were only 7 in all of Greater Manchester

DEATHS BY AGE RANGE OVER THE WEEKEND

0 - 19 (1)

20 - 39 (3)

40 - 59 (10)

60 - 79 (23)

80 PLUS (27)