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I fully support vaccination, nevertheless your statement is just not true.
Double vaccinated people are still dying of covid…
Significant proportions of people admitted to hospital, or dying from covid-19 in England are vaccinated—this doesn’t mean the vaccines don’t work - The BMJ
More vaccinated people are dying of the delta variant of covid than unvaccinated people, according to a recent report from Public Health England. The report shows that 489 of 742 [...]More...blogs.bmj.com
Yep they do and it shows how serous this Covid is because if no one got vaccinated they’ll be thousands more dying!
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ENGLAND REGIONS
EAST UP BY 783 - TO 3438 V 2995 - UP 443 IN WEEK - NOW ABOVE THE NORTH WEST
LONDON UP BY 640 - TO 2900 V 2647 - UP 253 IN WEEK
SOUTH EAST UP BY 1208 TO 4318 V 3836 - UP 482 IN WEEK - HUGE rise in one day takes it 1000 over the NW
SOUTH WEST UP BY 296 TO 2982 V 2519 - UP 463 IN WEEK
SOME BIG RISES HERE
EAST MIDLANDS UP BY 442 TO 3361 V 2950 UP 411 IN WEEK - Remarkably this is also now avove the NW
WEST MIDLANDS UP BY 295 - TO 3619 V 3070 - UP 549 IN WEEK - And so is this region above NW today!
NORTH EAST UP BY 93 TO 1315 V 1432 - DOWN 117 IN WEEK
YORKSHIRE FALLS BY 68 TO 3485 V 3210 - UP 275 IN WEEK - And also above North West today
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NORTH WEST FALLS BY 273 TO 3279 V 3702 - DOWN 423 IN WEEK
AS YOU WILL SEE MUKTIPLE REGIONS ARE ABOVE THE NORTH WEST TODAY - SO EITHER THE NW HAD A VERY GOOD DAY OR THEIR NUMBERS ARE UNDERCOUNTED VERSUS THE REST OF ENGLAND. I GUESS WE WILL FIND OUT TOMORROW
GM AS A PERCENTAGE OF NORTH WEST CASES
TODAY 35.2% UP FROM 34.2% YESTERDAY -
HOWEVER ALSO WELL UP FROM 32.1% LAST WEEK
NW HAD A VERY GOOD DAY. GM LESS SO THOUGH NW HAS BEEN A LOT WORSE THAN GM FOR A FEW WEES SO THIS IS PROBABLY JUST THE REST OF THE NW IMPROVING REBALANCING THE NUMBERS BACK TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE
EAST UP BY 783 - TO 3438 V 2995 - UP 443 IN WEEK - NOW ABOVE THE NORTH WEST
LONDON UP BY 640 - TO 2900 V 2647 - UP 253 IN WEEK
SOUTH EAST UP BY 1208 TO 4318 V 3836 - UP 482 IN WEEK - HUGE rise in one day takes it 1000 over the NW
SOUTH WEST UP BY 296 TO 2982 V 2519 - UP 463 IN WEEK
SOME BIG RISES HERE
EAST MIDLANDS UP BY 442 TO 3361 V 2950 UP 411 IN WEEK - Remarkably this is also now avove the NW
WEST MIDLANDS UP BY 295 - TO 3619 V 3070 - UP 549 IN WEEK - And so is this region above NW today!
NORTH EAST UP BY 93 TO 1315 V 1432 - DOWN 117 IN WEEK
YORKSHIRE FALLS BY 68 TO 3485 V 3210 - UP 275 IN WEEK - And also above North West today
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NORTH WEST FALLS BY 273 TO 3279 V 3702 - DOWN 423 IN WEEK
AS YOU WILL SEE MUKTIPLE REGIONS ARE ABOVE THE NORTH WEST TODAY - SO EITHER THE NW HAD A VERY GOOD DAY OR THEIR NUMBERS ARE UNDERCOUNTED VERSUS THE REST OF ENGLAND. I GUESS WE WILL FIND OUT TOMORROW
GM AS A PERCENTAGE OF NORTH WEST CASES
TODAY 35.2% UP FROM 34.2% YESTERDAY -
HOWEVER ALSO WELL UP FROM 32.1% LAST WEEK
NW HAD A VERY GOOD DAY. GM LESS SO THOUGH NW HAS BEEN A LOT WORSE THAN GM FOR A FEW WEES SO THIS IS PROBABLY JUST THE REST OF THE NW IMPROVING REBALANCING THE NUMBERS BACK TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE
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GREATER MANCHESTER SCOREBOARD
TOTAL CASES 1155 - DOWN 60 FROM YESTERDAY.
NORTH WEST DOWN 273 TO 3279 - FALL A BIT UNDER EXPECTATION FOR GM BUT WAS A FALL
VERSUS LAST WEEK GM WAS THEN 1206 - SO DOWN 51.
NORTH WEST FELL BY 423 WEEK TO WEEK FROM 3702.
SO GM FALL IS WELL BELOW EXPECTATION HERE TODAY
STOCKPORT 194 - UP 24 on day & DOWN 2 wk to wk.Not so god a day obviously but a week to week fall even of just 2 again is better than it was. Most it has ever been ahead of Manchester - but that says more about how well Manchester is doing as you see from it not being in the top 3 scorers today even! Pop Score up 66 today. Back to highest in GM just. But Trafford scored 59 today so the gap to them for best overall Pop Score increased to 72. POP SCORE 13, 233
WIGAN 152 - UP 10 on day & UP 9 wk to wk. Pop score up 46 today. POP SCORE 15, 113
TAMESIDE 143 - DOWN 3 on day & UP 8 wk to wk - A less good day here too. Pop Score up by 63 - second most in GM today. POP SCORE 14, 554
TRAFFORD 140 - DOWN 20 on day & UP 10 Wk to wk - Pop score of 59 gained 7 more off Stockport. Overall Pop Score across the pandemic is now 72. POP SCORE 13, 161
MANCHESTER 123 - DOWN 42 on day & DOWN 46 wk to wk. Lowest Manchester score in months. Pop Score up 22 - very good day AND the best Pop Score in GM today or in a while. POP SCORE 15, 910
ROCHDALE 91 - UP 26 on day & UP 45 wk to wk. Pop Score up 41. POP SCORE 15, 437
SALFORD 90 - DOWN 11 on day & DOWN 13 wk to wk. Pop Score up 34. POP SCORE 15, 744
OLDHAM 85 - DOWN 26 on day & DOWN 9 Wk to Wk. Pop Score up 36 and now 211 ahead of Manchester for highest overall GM pop score. POP SCORE 16, 121
BOLTON 69 - DOWN 34 on day & DOWN 46 wk to wk - Bolton Pop Score up 24 - would have been best today but for VERY low Manchester numbers. POP SCORE 15, 204
BURY 68 - UP 11 on day & DOWN 7 wk to wk. Pop score here up 36 POP SCORE 14, 871
TOTAL CASES 1155 - DOWN 60 FROM YESTERDAY.
NORTH WEST DOWN 273 TO 3279 - FALL A BIT UNDER EXPECTATION FOR GM BUT WAS A FALL
VERSUS LAST WEEK GM WAS THEN 1206 - SO DOWN 51.
NORTH WEST FELL BY 423 WEEK TO WEEK FROM 3702.
SO GM FALL IS WELL BELOW EXPECTATION HERE TODAY
STOCKPORT 194 - UP 24 on day & DOWN 2 wk to wk.Not so god a day obviously but a week to week fall even of just 2 again is better than it was. Most it has ever been ahead of Manchester - but that says more about how well Manchester is doing as you see from it not being in the top 3 scorers today even! Pop Score up 66 today. Back to highest in GM just. But Trafford scored 59 today so the gap to them for best overall Pop Score increased to 72. POP SCORE 13, 233
WIGAN 152 - UP 10 on day & UP 9 wk to wk. Pop score up 46 today. POP SCORE 15, 113
TAMESIDE 143 - DOWN 3 on day & UP 8 wk to wk - A less good day here too. Pop Score up by 63 - second most in GM today. POP SCORE 14, 554
TRAFFORD 140 - DOWN 20 on day & UP 10 Wk to wk - Pop score of 59 gained 7 more off Stockport. Overall Pop Score across the pandemic is now 72. POP SCORE 13, 161
MANCHESTER 123 - DOWN 42 on day & DOWN 46 wk to wk. Lowest Manchester score in months. Pop Score up 22 - very good day AND the best Pop Score in GM today or in a while. POP SCORE 15, 910
ROCHDALE 91 - UP 26 on day & UP 45 wk to wk. Pop Score up 41. POP SCORE 15, 437
SALFORD 90 - DOWN 11 on day & DOWN 13 wk to wk. Pop Score up 34. POP SCORE 15, 744
OLDHAM 85 - DOWN 26 on day & DOWN 9 Wk to Wk. Pop Score up 36 and now 211 ahead of Manchester for highest overall GM pop score. POP SCORE 16, 121
BOLTON 69 - DOWN 34 on day & DOWN 46 wk to wk - Bolton Pop Score up 24 - would have been best today but for VERY low Manchester numbers. POP SCORE 15, 204
BURY 68 - UP 11 on day & DOWN 7 wk to wk. Pop score here up 36 POP SCORE 14, 871
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GM boroughs weekly past 7 day case totals:
Bury 479, Rochdale 517, Oldham 714, Bolton 721, Salford 767, Trafford 1054, Tameside 1100, Wigan 1108, Manchester 1138, Stockport 1439
At the right end of the table Bury back on top after Rochdale up a bit today.
At the wrong end of the table Stockport FELL for second day running though again only by 2 and Manchester were down much more so Stockport's lead increased again to 301 - highest ever above Manchester. Revealing very clearly who is the problem child in GM right now.
Tameside and Wigan stay over 1000 and Trafford joined them today. Indeed the way Manchester is performing Tameside and Wigan could easily both go above the city in the next day or two.
Hard to rememember that before this turnaround Machester was well over 1000 ahead of everyone else. At one stage nearer 2000. Such has been the remarkable change in GMs biggest borough.
Just imagine the GM and NW numbers WITHOUT that Manchester huge improvement. As much as Stockport's struggles are peculiar the massive improvement in Manchester is equally intriguing.
Especially as Manchester has by far the lowest vaccinations of the 10 boroughs and Stockport the highest. But that is not relly the key here as the cases are bewng driven by age groups that are unvaccinated or in small numbers only.
It would be a very different picture in this table if thatwere not the case as in all past waves.
Bury 479, Rochdale 517, Oldham 714, Bolton 721, Salford 767, Trafford 1054, Tameside 1100, Wigan 1108, Manchester 1138, Stockport 1439
At the right end of the table Bury back on top after Rochdale up a bit today.
At the wrong end of the table Stockport FELL for second day running though again only by 2 and Manchester were down much more so Stockport's lead increased again to 301 - highest ever above Manchester. Revealing very clearly who is the problem child in GM right now.
Tameside and Wigan stay over 1000 and Trafford joined them today. Indeed the way Manchester is performing Tameside and Wigan could easily both go above the city in the next day or two.
Hard to rememember that before this turnaround Machester was well over 1000 ahead of everyone else. At one stage nearer 2000. Such has been the remarkable change in GMs biggest borough.
Just imagine the GM and NW numbers WITHOUT that Manchester huge improvement. As much as Stockport's struggles are peculiar the massive improvement in Manchester is equally intriguing.
Especially as Manchester has by far the lowest vaccinations of the 10 boroughs and Stockport the highest. But that is not relly the key here as the cases are bewng driven by age groups that are unvaccinated or in small numbers only.
It would be a very different picture in this table if thatwere not the case as in all past waves.
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GM WEEKLY POP SCORES
Remember low scores good - going down good - high scores bad - going up bad
BOROUGH // POP SCORE TODAY // POP SCORE LAST WEEK // UP OR DOWN BY LAST 7 DAYS
Also WAS 4 weeks ago (up/down in past month)
MANCHESTER 205 // 216 //DOWN 11 WAS 287 (down 82)
ROCHDALE 231 // 232 // DOWN 1 WAS 270 (down 39 )
BOLTON 250 // 236 // UP 14 WAS 244 (up 6)
BURY 251 // 255 // DOWN 4 WAS 293 (down 42)
SALFORD 292 // 262 // UP 30 WAS 348 (down 56)
OLDHAM 301 // 282 // UP 19 WAS 289 (up 12 )
WIGAN 335 // 273 // UP 62 WAS 280 (UP 55)
TRAFFORD 443 // 346 // UP 97 WAS 327 (UP 116)
TAMESIDE 484 // 367 // UP 117 WAS 410 (UP 74)
STOCKPORT 489 // 381 // UP 108 WAS 336 (UP 153)
Tameside and Trafford rose after bad days and Stockport fell but only by 1 so minimal impact on the table. But at least Stockport's march into the 500s has been slowed and now stalled. Hopefully stopped.
These three are now a very long way ahead of the other 7.
Manchester is still the best still in GM on pretty much every measure and as it had a good day and Rochdale a bad went well clear at the top and heading for sub 200 any day now it seems.
A gap of 284 - UP by 7 - between Manchester and Stockport is the most by far it has ever been.
Remember low scores good - going down good - high scores bad - going up bad
BOROUGH // POP SCORE TODAY // POP SCORE LAST WEEK // UP OR DOWN BY LAST 7 DAYS
Also WAS 4 weeks ago (up/down in past month)
MANCHESTER 205 // 216 //DOWN 11 WAS 287 (down 82)
ROCHDALE 231 // 232 // DOWN 1 WAS 270 (down 39 )
BOLTON 250 // 236 // UP 14 WAS 244 (up 6)
BURY 251 // 255 // DOWN 4 WAS 293 (down 42)
SALFORD 292 // 262 // UP 30 WAS 348 (down 56)
OLDHAM 301 // 282 // UP 19 WAS 289 (up 12 )
WIGAN 335 // 273 // UP 62 WAS 280 (UP 55)
TRAFFORD 443 // 346 // UP 97 WAS 327 (UP 116)
TAMESIDE 484 // 367 // UP 117 WAS 410 (UP 74)
STOCKPORT 489 // 381 // UP 108 WAS 336 (UP 153)
Tameside and Trafford rose after bad days and Stockport fell but only by 1 so minimal impact on the table. But at least Stockport's march into the 500s has been slowed and now stalled. Hopefully stopped.
These three are now a very long way ahead of the other 7.
Manchester is still the best still in GM on pretty much every measure and as it had a good day and Rochdale a bad went well clear at the top and heading for sub 200 any day now it seems.
A gap of 284 - UP by 7 - between Manchester and Stockport is the most by far it has ever been.
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ENGLAND ADMISSIONS PAST THREE DAYS
THEY JUST FIXED THE GLITCH
ADMISSIONS (DATA HERE IS ALWAYS 48 HOURS BEHIND - REMEMBER - SO THIS IS THU/FRI/SAT)
Last Week THU / FRI / SAT VERSUS This Week THU/ FRI / SAT
TOTAL 672 / 540 / 560 VERSUS 572 / 577 / 520
LONDON 103 / 76 / 78 VERSUS 88 / 87 / 81
MIDLANDS 138 / 112 / 102 VERSUS 124 / 101 / 86
NE & YORKSHIRE 142 / 120 / 132 VERSUS 125 / 137 / 130
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NORTH WEST 96 / 82 / 91 VERSUS 83 / 97 / 94
You can see patient numbers have been falling as fewer are being admitted now week to week.
BUT the fall in numbers slowed in the start of the weekend and there was a week to week rise last Friday.
Also whilst London fell a lot and Midlands well down NE & Yorkshire started to stall over the weekend and
The North West was the lowest last week but Londin has eclipsed that AND the last two days numbers over the weekend were UP on last week.
The patient numbers will enlighten on this coming next.
THEY JUST FIXED THE GLITCH
ADMISSIONS (DATA HERE IS ALWAYS 48 HOURS BEHIND - REMEMBER - SO THIS IS THU/FRI/SAT)
Last Week THU / FRI / SAT VERSUS This Week THU/ FRI / SAT
TOTAL 672 / 540 / 560 VERSUS 572 / 577 / 520
LONDON 103 / 76 / 78 VERSUS 88 / 87 / 81
MIDLANDS 138 / 112 / 102 VERSUS 124 / 101 / 86
NE & YORKSHIRE 142 / 120 / 132 VERSUS 125 / 137 / 130
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NORTH WEST 96 / 82 / 91 VERSUS 83 / 97 / 94
You can see patient numbers have been falling as fewer are being admitted now week to week.
BUT the fall in numbers slowed in the start of the weekend and there was a week to week rise last Friday.
Also whilst London fell a lot and Midlands well down NE & Yorkshire started to stall over the weekend and
The North West was the lowest last week but Londin has eclipsed that AND the last two days numbers over the weekend were UP on last week.
The patient numbers will enlighten on this coming next.
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ENGLAND HOSPITAL UPDATE - PAST THREE DAYS
MIXED NEWS
(FRI) - SAT - SUN - TODAY PATIENTS WERE (5036) - 5100 - 4949 - (TODAY) 5121
So after falling below 5000 on Sunday today saw that reverse as it often does on a Monday.
That is UP Friday to Today from 5036 to 5121 - UP BY 85.
LAST WEEK THE EQUIVALENT NUMBERS WERE:-
(5910) - 5688 - 5695 - (5727)
CLEARLY NOT AS GOOD A WEEKEND AS LAST WHEN NUMBERS FELL BY 183 VERSUS THIS WEEKEND WHEN THEY ROSE BY 85.
THE WEEK TO WEEK PATIENT NUMBERS MON - MON IS:- 5727 - 5121 - A WEEKLY FALL OF 606
LAST WEEK THIS WAS 6424 - 5727 - A WEEKLY FALL OF 697
(FRI) - SAT - SUN - (TODAY)
LONDON (FRI 1000) - 984 - 990 - (TODAY 999) - DOWN Wk to Wk 123
MIDLANDS (1044) - 998- 1009 - (TODAY 1011) - DOWN Wk to Wk 167
NE & YORKSHIRE (1003) - 1161 - 1063 - (TODAY 1129) - DOWN Wk to Wk 27
NORTH WEST (829) - 825 - 788 - (TODAY 870 ) - DOWN Wk to Wk 43
As you can see London & MIdlands did very well and their wk to week fall is almost the same as last week
BUT
The two Northern Regions are the main reason numbers are up not down.
Yorkshire as you see rose by 158 on Friday and again today by 66 and is up the most (126) over the weekend
North West fell big up to today but rose by 82 today - the biggest increase of any region today - but over the weekend up just 41. Far less than Yorkshire.
London is down 1 over the weekend and Midlands down 33.
Hopefully the Monday influx will be short stay as is often the case and numbers will fall mid week as they often tend to do but it is something to watch.
The other smaller regions over the weekend (FRI - TODAY):-
East fell 11 to 379
South East fell by 27 to 405
South West fell by 10 to 328
MIXED NEWS
(FRI) - SAT - SUN - TODAY PATIENTS WERE (5036) - 5100 - 4949 - (TODAY) 5121
So after falling below 5000 on Sunday today saw that reverse as it often does on a Monday.
That is UP Friday to Today from 5036 to 5121 - UP BY 85.
LAST WEEK THE EQUIVALENT NUMBERS WERE:-
(5910) - 5688 - 5695 - (5727)
CLEARLY NOT AS GOOD A WEEKEND AS LAST WHEN NUMBERS FELL BY 183 VERSUS THIS WEEKEND WHEN THEY ROSE BY 85.
THE WEEK TO WEEK PATIENT NUMBERS MON - MON IS:- 5727 - 5121 - A WEEKLY FALL OF 606
LAST WEEK THIS WAS 6424 - 5727 - A WEEKLY FALL OF 697
(FRI) - SAT - SUN - (TODAY)
LONDON (FRI 1000) - 984 - 990 - (TODAY 999) - DOWN Wk to Wk 123
MIDLANDS (1044) - 998- 1009 - (TODAY 1011) - DOWN Wk to Wk 167
NE & YORKSHIRE (1003) - 1161 - 1063 - (TODAY 1129) - DOWN Wk to Wk 27
NORTH WEST (829) - 825 - 788 - (TODAY 870 ) - DOWN Wk to Wk 43
As you can see London & MIdlands did very well and their wk to week fall is almost the same as last week
BUT
The two Northern Regions are the main reason numbers are up not down.
Yorkshire as you see rose by 158 on Friday and again today by 66 and is up the most (126) over the weekend
North West fell big up to today but rose by 82 today - the biggest increase of any region today - but over the weekend up just 41. Far less than Yorkshire.
London is down 1 over the weekend and Midlands down 33.
Hopefully the Monday influx will be short stay as is often the case and numbers will fall mid week as they often tend to do but it is something to watch.
The other smaller regions over the weekend (FRI - TODAY):-
East fell 11 to 379
South East fell by 27 to 405
South West fell by 10 to 328
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ENGLAND HOSPITAL UPDATE - VENTILATORS PAST THREE DAYS
GOOD NEWS HERE
(FRI) - SAT - SUN - TODAY VENTILATORS WERE (730) - 723 - 689 - (TODAY) 685
So a FALL over the weekend of 45
LAST WEEK THE EQUIVALENT NUMBERS WERE:-
(844) - 829 - 824- (811)
A FALL over the weekend of 33
A BETTER WEEKEND THAN LAST
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WEEK TO WEEK (MON TO MON) VENTILATORS FELL FROM 811 TO 685 - A FALL OF 126
LAST WEEK THE MON TO MON FALL WAS FROM 886 TO 811 - A FALL OF 75
CLEAR WEEK TO WEEK IMPROVEMENT HERE TOO
(FRI) - SAT - SUN - (TODAY)
LONDON (FRI 195) - 193 - 191 - (TODAY 183) - DOWN Wk to Wk 38
MIDLANDS (155) - 147 - 146 - (TODAY 144) - DOWN Wk to Wk 32
NE & YORKSHIRE (124) - 136 - 130 - (TODAY 130) - DOWN Wk to Wk 2
NORTH WEST (100) - 98 - 83 - (TODAY 90 ) - DOWN Wk to Wk 20
As you can see London & Midlands did very well and their wk to week fall is big
BUT
Yorkshire as you see rose over the weekend and is only down 2 MON to MON
North West fell big up to today but rose by 7 today - the biggest increase of any region today. But does seem at least well under 100 now for the first time in weeks. And did fall by 20 wk to wk.
Hopefully the Monday influx will be short stay on ventilators too as is often the case and numbers will fall soon here too.
The other smaller regions over the weekend (FRI - TODAY):-
East fell by 11 to 44
South East fell by 4 to 43
South West fell by 3 to 51
GOOD NEWS HERE
(FRI) - SAT - SUN - TODAY VENTILATORS WERE (730) - 723 - 689 - (TODAY) 685
So a FALL over the weekend of 45
LAST WEEK THE EQUIVALENT NUMBERS WERE:-
(844) - 829 - 824- (811)
A FALL over the weekend of 33
A BETTER WEEKEND THAN LAST
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WEEK TO WEEK (MON TO MON) VENTILATORS FELL FROM 811 TO 685 - A FALL OF 126
LAST WEEK THE MON TO MON FALL WAS FROM 886 TO 811 - A FALL OF 75
CLEAR WEEK TO WEEK IMPROVEMENT HERE TOO
(FRI) - SAT - SUN - (TODAY)
LONDON (FRI 195) - 193 - 191 - (TODAY 183) - DOWN Wk to Wk 38
MIDLANDS (155) - 147 - 146 - (TODAY 144) - DOWN Wk to Wk 32
NE & YORKSHIRE (124) - 136 - 130 - (TODAY 130) - DOWN Wk to Wk 2
NORTH WEST (100) - 98 - 83 - (TODAY 90 ) - DOWN Wk to Wk 20
As you can see London & Midlands did very well and their wk to week fall is big
BUT
Yorkshire as you see rose over the weekend and is only down 2 MON to MON
North West fell big up to today but rose by 7 today - the biggest increase of any region today. But does seem at least well under 100 now for the first time in weeks. And did fall by 20 wk to wk.
Hopefully the Monday influx will be short stay on ventilators too as is often the case and numbers will fall soon here too.
The other smaller regions over the weekend (FRI - TODAY):-
East fell by 11 to 44
South East fell by 4 to 43
South West fell by 3 to 51
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