Coronavirus (2021) thread

[kevin horlocks wand]

Are you suggesting a variant that is less severe (this is opinion not fact, yet) will not lead to a substantial increase on deaths not overwhelm the NHS?

I am saying what the WHO said thats all.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59573037

 

[Marvin]

And estimates for Spanish Flu deaths range between 225,000 deaths to as many as 300,000 in the UK. This at a time when the population was smaller and people travelled much less.

Without the vaccines and restrictions we’d be looking at that number now for
Covid.

If Covid-19 developed in 1919 would it have passed by now? Were Delta and Omicron inevitable or are they man-made (indirectly!)?

 

[Octavian]

No ,it won’t. In fact it will make them harder to shake off as the hypocrisy calls will increase. Especially from those in his party that are against restrictions.

Exactly. The public are livid with them for the party and this will only double up with the frustrations felt at further restrictions. The government would be better placed stating we were well over the worst of it to deliver good news to the public.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Anyone have any idea what time the new restrictions are being announced today?

Boris might know.

 

[Octavian]

If Covid-19 developed in 1919 would it have passed by now? Were Delta and Omicron inevitable or are they man-made (indirectly!)?

I’m not a qualified expert here but I doubt it would have passed yet. It’s another highly contagious virus that just so happens to affect the old rather than young, when Sp Flu was the other way around. We’ve probably got another couple of years at least until it’s out of the news.

But we should be super thankful for the vaccines as without them life would be totally bleak.

Variants are totally natural and happen all the time with viruses, the Spanish Flu weakened itself to survive in the end and went into the normal flu circulation.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Again, you clearly dont know what a pandemic is. You cant just opt out of it cos you decide to.

Pandemic = "(of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world."

But 7000 out of 67 million (if the figures quoted are accurate) is hardly “prevalent”.

 

[Bluewonder]

And estimates for Spanish Flu deaths range between 225,000 deaths to as many as 300,000 in the UK. This at a time when the population was smaller and people travelled much less.

Without the vaccines and restrictions we’d be looking at that number now for
Covid.

A middle-ground estimate of Spanish Flu mortality is 50m. That's 2.5% of the global population at the time.

The official Covid deaths are 5.3m, that is 0.06% of the global population. I suspect the Covid deaths are underestimated but you can see that Spanish Flu was magnitudes worse.

Also, we have vaccines so the point is moot.

 

[M18CTID]

You don't need to be a scientist to explain the logic of that. If a weaker virus infects more people, we could end up with more people becoming seriously ill, going to hospital and dying.

Exactly. If it puts, say, 1% of those infected in hospital as opposed to 2% for Delta (which would obviously be good news in terms of severity) but cases triple in number to 150,000 Onicron per day from 50,000 Delta, then that leads to 50% more hospital admissions per day.

 

[Gabriel]

 

[Craig]

Why ? what does it achieve for Johnson politically. Do you think it will make him popular ?

It’s just done exactly what he set out to do. His Xmas party won’t be front page in the morning.