Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Ric]

Was that a walk in, or did you have an appointment?

Had an appointment, but they were accepting walk-ins too.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Don’t normally get unwell. I’ve had the confirmation that I’m positive today. Jesus I feel terrible. Headache, Fever, sore throat, cough etc… Knocked me for 6 this but at least my breathing is ok.

It’s not pleasant. Hopefully be on the mend in around 3/4 days though. I felt really unwell for 5 days then started to feel a bit better. The breathlessness is still affecting me though 7 weeks later. Good luck with it.

 

[splinter]

Grenfell tower isn’t full of Rees-Moggs!

I'll hold my hands up..I've haven't got a clue about the london boroughs..

 

[inbetween]

I've got a really heavy cold (first cold in a couple of years) and a doctor on the radio said that if you have a cold, it's probably Omicron variant
My lateral flow test at home was negative so I went for a PCR yesterday
I was told i would be notified of the results today, but if I didn't ring the number on my card
Nothing through, I ring up to be told it takes up to 72 hours

That's interesting because I had the exact same thing a week or two ago. It wasn't a bad cold though, all lateral flows were negative but I never went for a PCR because I'd have to lie about symptoms.

 

[Gabriel]

When you are stating 'white', are eastern European included in that?

Those figures are way out of date. GLA population estimates (and school surveys) have white British population as around 50% in Westminster.

If they were white, yes, I did state 2011.

 

[Corky]

Grenfell tower isn’t full of Rees-Moggs!

That is Kensington & Chelsea, slightly better off than Westminster, but both are less deprived than Bury but more deprived than Stockport, and pretty average over all. However when you take into account the horrific housing costs you see a dystopia.

 

[chaddblue]

Boris Bellend just said there’s been 780 thousand cases of covid today. Just 10 times more than the true number

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

These positive tests will just be the tip of the iceberg. Loads won’t be getting tested and will have it. It’s pointless trying to do anything about it now other than keep fingers crossed it’s milder than Delta. I can’t see them fully locking down again. 2 years on and we are at this stage. I thought it would be done and dusted within a year ! How wrong can you be.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Lowest uptake for jabs are black Caribbean and some Asian communities (not all though and not uniform across the country) and then the poorest members of society. Just rocking up at the Etihad when you are working 4 jobs just to eat and have some warmth isn’t as easy as some people think it is, especially if that involves time off work and a bus fare or two.

This is backed up by the official statistics that I was just reading.

In particular, it's true that people in private rented accommodation are less likely to be vaccinated than those in social housing. I imagine that comes down to poor people living Homes of multiple occupation working 40 hours +, many won't have transport.

Two essentials as I understood it going into this winter were to get the vulnerable boosted, and increase the baseline numbers in the urban areas amongst 20 to 40 sths.

S'why I'm not fussed about a million jabs a day. Boosters need doing for everyone, but I hope it doesn't detract from the effort to to get the elderly done ASAP, and also getting into areas and age groups lagging behind long term.

I'm not a fan of Vaccine Passports for a lot of reasons - but at this stage it looks like probably the quickest way to get 20-40 sths on board - they are mad on going out to events.

We probably should have had this conversation after the summer, but it all got shelved for political reasons. Some say the secret backstop was that by letting the don't wanna knows in the 20-50 group carry on like everything was ok, they'd mix like fuck and get infected in the summer/autumn, giving a level of community resistance which would last the winter.

Omicron appears to mean that community resistance means less. Possibly much, much less. Hence panic stations. Little doubt for me they keep accidentally overstating Omicron numbers to create a minor stampede. Aside from being a cowards way of handling not getting the job done back then - and the work of a professional drama queen - I worry that it misses the mark, and taking all social and health resources and applying them to such a simple minded approach will hurt big time in general health.

But it's probably better than the country fully sleepwalking into the winter and beyond.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Turns out that re-infections are excluded from the headline case figure. Presumably because they were more likely to be false positives in the past?

But could significantly underestimate case numbers with omicron?

Did Johnson have anything worthwhile hearing?