Coronavirus (2021) thread

[hilts]

No he died with Davy Crocket

The rip thread in here is shit it's like no one cares who passed before Phil.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Not all down to conditions not treated though some will be probably, short staff and GPs not opening up. Bed blocking due to lack of care staff in the homes and community causing many problems in hospitals too.

One in eight hospital beds is being blocked by someone who is fit to leave

Figures come amid rising pressure on NHS due to admissions from omicron, sickness among staff, and delays moving patients from ambulances

www.telegraph.co.uk

1 in 8 down to bed blocking.apparently.

 

[Corky]

It's more like 1,500 deaths per day on average and this rises a little in mid-winter.

Yeah not far off 1% year, so the 908 looked odd to me.

 

[BlueHammer85]

A further 88,376 new cases of coronavirus were recorded in the UK

 

[Toney’s bookie]

Death figures in the UK to become horribly skewed in January.

Omicron surge likely to make data on Covid deaths very unreliable – here's why

Variant could skew hospital and deaths figures to the point that they become largely useless in driving policy

www.telegraph.co.uk

908 people die a day on average in the UK.
If a large number of these catch Covid then they will be counted as Covid deaths. Even if it was just a sniffle

I made this point last year. It's a never ending cycle until they change how they record or use the data to make policy (see link below)

COVID-19 — Coronavirus

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Death figures in the UK to become horribly skewed in January.

Omicron surge likely to make data on Covid deaths very unreliable – here's why

Variant could skew hospital and deaths figures to the point that they become largely useless in driving policy

www.telegraph.co.uk

908 people die a day on average in the UK.
If a large number of these catch Covid then they will be counted as Covid deaths. Even if it was just a sniffle

Essentially this is just more whataboutery.

It's been the case all through the pandemic that there is a proportion of deaths that will initially be incorrectly attributed.

Equally, there are people who will die after 28 days who are wrongly excluded on the headline figure.

Overall, this doesn't skew the data, as you can see by death certificate and excess deaths data.

The only way this will become more of a problem with omicron is if it's factors less severe. In which case, it won't be a problem. Because hospital numbers won't go up.

 

[splinter]

A further 88,376 new cases of coronavirus were recorded in the UK

Hope they all have a bad cold

 

[Summerbuzz]

It's more like 1,500 deaths per day on average and this rises a little in mid-winter.

What are we talking about? Flu, Pneumonia?

 

[Toney’s bookie]

The only way this will become more of a problem with omicron is if it's factors less severe. In which case, it won't be a problem. Because hospital numbers won't go up.

Yes - TOTAL hospital numbers (for any cause).

So if there's 11000 people in hospital today and 11000 people in hospital on 16 Jan then great! As long as we are aware that another 8000 of them may now be 'with' covid and so be recorded as covid patients. You are right that the absolute / excess numbers will tell us more.

 

[Tonster]

What are we talking about? Flu, Pneumonia?

They were talking average deaths per day in UK