Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Brightwell Bros.]

How long did it take people to get their smell/taste back? Wife has lost hers.

I got back after about 3 weeks, but it wasn't right for about six months.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I give you Prof Carl Heneghan, the director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the University of Oxford who stated that the country was in “deep, deep trouble” if it entered into “annual winter lockdowns”, adding that “this is as good as it gets when you consider the predictable rise in winter pathogens at this time of the year”.

He has a twitter account though so he must be talking bollocks!!

 

[grunge]

I give you Prof Carl Heneghan, the director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the University of Oxford who stated that the country was in “deep, deep trouble” if it entered into “annual winter lockdowns”, adding that “this is as good as it gets when you consider the predictable rise in winter pathogens at this time of the year”.

Not sure how that relates to what I posted?

 

[BobKowalski]

Its not just hospitality sector, its amazing how many industries are interlinked

e.g just done a job for a gym owner. It was said light heartedly that he needs every one on the piss in december and over xmas so they get fat and join gyms in january. Jan and feb are there ‘profit months’.

and although light hearted he was also deadly serious.
he said member ships are down 30% , break even.

people blindly telling every one to stay in should have an asterix with how any sort of lock down (by stealth or official) will affect their income and career

Agreed. Hospitality, Leisure, any sector affected. Better sick pay would help as well, given ours is so low compared to the European average.

To live with Covid we need a better funded health service and bigger support schemes for people affected. Over time sectors will adjust to a new normal, but transitioning to the new normal will require support.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Yes, it’s lockdown on the cheap. There needs to be financial support for the hospitality sector, we can’t expect ordinary people to take on the burden.

As for Whitty, not sure what you expect him to say. Yes there’s a new variant, we don’t have all the data, but signs from elsewhere are that it isn’t too bad, so ignore it and carry on?

A good proportion of people would have just heard ‘new variant’ and altered their behaviour anyway. No one wants to be sick at Christmas, even if it’s only mildly ill.

i expect him to give advice and data to the government together with a recommendation and for the government to decide and announce what we should do, taken in the round Last time I looked we lived in a democracy .

its not him to tell british public what we can and cannot do. That’s the governments job .

boris maybe a complete tool but he is the elected tool and it’s for him to announce whether people should go out or not not emperor Whitty,s or Jenny Harris for that matter

 

[BobKowalski]

A social insurance model with privately run facilities would not be a bad idea as long as it remains free at point of use. The NHS is clearly incapable of supporting society in its current form.

Or you just gear up and fund the NHS to support society in a Covid era. Whatever ‘free at point of use’ model you care to adopt, it will still need paying for. We have been obsessed with efficiencies and cutting costs and then act surprised when it can’t cope in a crisis. You get what you pay for.

 

[Gabriel]

Truth is though, the public do that anyway. Every lockdown has come after the infections have peaked, which means they didn’t really do anything. Google travel worked out that the week before the first lockdown travel had reduced so much that by the time the lockdown arrived, travel reduced hardly at all.

Tell people to be careful, use LFT’s before they go out and about and try to avoid having loads of people in poorly ventilated houses (still one of the 3 places you are most likely to catch covid, care homes and hospitals being the other 2).

Good points. If they can get through this winter without an official lockdown, then unless a particularly virulent variant surfaces next year, they can hopefully avoid resorting to that measure. However, if they deem another lockdown necessary now, they run the risk of creating a pattern of expectation both within the public and from certain sectors.

 

[twosips]

Anyone get a lot of phlegm with covid? I'm coughing up some mid-green gunk. Wasn't expecting that at all.

 

[BobKowalski]

i expect him to give advice and data to the government together with a recommendation and for the government to decide and announce what we should do, taken in the round Last time I looked we lived in a democracy .

its not him to tell british public what we can and cannot do. That’s the governments job .

boris maybe a complete tool but he is the elected tool and it’s for him to announce whether people should go out or not not emperor Whitty,s or Jenny Harris for that matter

Are you trying to ‘cancel’ the country’s Chief Medical Officer because you don’t like the message?

The Govt is the one that takes the decision, not Whitty, but in a pandemic I would like to hear from the UK’s CMO. I did assume in a democracy that I should be allowed to hear what the CMO thinks.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

Anyone get a lot of phlegm with covid? I'm coughing up some mid-green gunk. Wasn't expecting that at all.

Half of Merseyside.