Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Hes the left back remember]

Officially 8 (few symptoms a day or two before).
I’ve been booked by my GP to have a call with a hot covid clinic this afternoon. They’ll assess and if required they’ll get me in (or someone out) to due oxygen sat levels...hopefully some other form of treatment too.

Somapop please let us know outcome/advice given.
I think my symptoms are very similar to yours.
Good luck!

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I cringed at yesterday's press conference when at question time, someone asked could we look forward to opening up the country in March once the most vulnerable groups had been vaccinated. The mindset of too many needs recalibration imo

Yup. We've learned nothing. Desperate to make the same mistake again and again and again. Depressing.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

You are right as far as we know it doesn’t stop transmission, but like the flu vaccine, if it stops most people suffering the worst effects and in the vast majority dying, then we may have to live with transmission. In that case things will get back to some normallity and like flu we will have to asses our own risk, make sure those at a higher risk have the option up to date vaccination.
Whether that’s this summer or autumn remains to be seen but I would say it will be when everyone over 40 has had or been offered their second dose, some normality and holidays can resume.

Agreed, and that works across all countries when it comes to holidays.

The arrogance of some of the reporting in this country around holidays abroad this year, is surely typical Little Englander?

It will not be our choice to make.

Other countries around the world will be at different stages of their own vaccine programme, so it is pretty arrogant thinking for some outlets to suggest Gary and Sharon can have their two weeks in Marbs this summer, just because they have had their jab?

They are just as likely to remain potential carriers of the virus and still be able to transmit it to others (those not fortunate enough to have had a jab yet)

Equating risk can't be a personal choice, sadly, not in these times.

This is a global challenge and the laws have to be considered for the greater good.

If that means a week in Devon rather than Spain, then people have to accept that.

I have been genuinely shocked how many people assume this vaccine is the white Knight on a fiery steed.

 

[Indaparkside]

Can someone explain please if a new variant of the virus comes along what happens to all the people who have already been vaccinated surely they will still be compromised as the jab they have had will not be effective against the new strain is this correct.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Mutations were always going to happen. There is a risk of a bad new strain. The risk is not high of it being catastrophic, and we do have the tools to respond to it, even if it is.

This line seems to be the key point - there will be mutations, some may be bad. We can react, and quickly, but can't future-proof anything.

I expect that all three makers are already well along the SA, UK or Brazil variant vaccine process - that there is no pathogen part in the vaccine should make the regulation process reasonably straightforward.

 

[Healdplace]

There must be an awful lot of repeat tests in that 62million (I guess many, like the footballers, tested weekly).

I don't know anyone who's been tested, let alone definitely had it (yet).

Three months ago I could have said the same. But then I have been self isolating since March.

But in the past three months I have lost count of those I know but it is double figures and not far off in my owm family.

There has been a dramatic increase noticeable to me since October. And from comments on here I am not alone as I have seen several people say it,

When you are doing between half a million and 700 thousand tests a day though as now you are going to find more cases. We are catching a much higher proportion now than we did in the first wave when tests were scarce.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Somapop please let us know outcome/advice given.
I think my symptoms are very similar to yours.
Good luck!

Good luck mate. Speedy recovery.

Some really interesting points in the last couple of pages, so thanks to everyone who's posted. @inbetween, regarding the vitamin D - you may be interested to know that as I've said before I think I've been lucky enough (so far) to have came through this relatively unscathed. That's after taking a vit D supplement for months. One supplement I've not taken is Zinc and consequently I've completely lost taste and smell, and from what I know Zinc specifically helps with these senses. Might be something or might just be coincidence, and I know a few posters on here recommended Zinc, and I suppose my own situation backs up both the argument for vitamin D and the argument for Zinc.

 

[domalino]

I cringed at yesterday's press conference when at question time, someone asked could we look forward to opening up the country in March once the most vulnerable groups had been vaccinated. The mindset of too many needs recalibration imo

You might well cringe but the country will be opened up when those over 70's are vaccinated.

The first 5 groups account for 94-99% of deaths, and there's just no way the country is going to still be in lockdown when deaths are down to 10-20 a day.

We will be in Tier 1/2, maybe 3 within a month of them hitting that target group.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Yup. We've learned nothing. Desperate to make the same mistake again and again and again. Depressing.

And be blunt at this most repetitive of questions.
"We don't know how it will affect the numbers, and are making no promises. It will depend on a number of factors including how responsibly the public behave. Repeat until March."

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I had the same feeling that those vaccinated will feel "released". I fear more the younger generation thinking they now have a free pass as they think they cannot harm anyone.

I cringed at yesterday's press conference when at question time, someone asked could we look forward to opening up the country in March once the most vulnerable groups had been vaccinated. The mindset of too many needs recalibration imo

I don't know who is driving the misconception, government, media, or those businesses with vested interests?

Probably all three!

As you say, our entire mindset needs to change.

It happened after 9/11 when everyone had to accept the way we jumped on and off airplanes through customs was changed forever.

Nobody likes waiting in queues but it was the new reality.

The new reality, here and now, is things might never be the same again, and far too many people might not be willing to accept that.