Coronavirus (2021) thread

[inchy14]

Hope she’s not long in waiting blue

She’s been doubtful as to whether she wants it in all honesty, never had a flu jab and she’s 72 this month, but never ever had flu either. She decided last weekend that she would do when offered though.
Thanks mate.

 

[inchy14]

My covid clinic appt didn’t happen as the computer systems went down (?) apparently.
Fortunately my GP who arranged it stopped by my flat after he’d finished at the surgery. I’ve been seen by him a number of times over the years abs always liked him.
No pneumonia but chest ‘rattling with crap from covid’ nothing to be concerned about and using the oximeter gave a reading of 95, which I’m presuming is ok (anything under 92 a concern).
Also said if I were to walk down the stairs of the flats it would probably kill me which was spot on given I’d tried to yesterday....and it did nearly kill me.
Advised to get some fresh air on the hour (I hadn’t as I’ve been so cold). Should hopefully see some much better recovery by the weekend & hopefully full return to work Monday.
Perhaps psychological but I do feel a bit perkier this evening (I took a shower which helped).
Feet are still throbbing (no red blotches) & I have this phantom ‘hot oil in oven’ smell haunting me.

Hope you recover soon mate.

 

[kaz7]

The vast majority won't know, because sadly they don't care, that is why we have a "media" and they should be reporting the full story, not the bit's they cherry pick.

It's because of that bbc news headline tonight, why people think 1640 people died yesterday. It's terrible reporting, they never have a headline at the weekend about how only 300 died.

I only watch sky so i dont know about the bbc, they are always saying there is a lag and deaths registered , i cant help anyone who doesnt watch it

 

[blueparrot]

I only watch sky so i dont know about the bbc, they are always saying there is a lag and deaths registered , i cant help anyone who doesnt watch it

To be fair I was about to post the same as cleavers but stopped because tonight the bbc did go on to talk about the lag. Which is what I was asking.

 

[cleavers]

To be fair I was about to post the same as cleavers but stopped because tonight the bbc did go on to talk about the lag. Which is what I was asking.

The bbc usually do mention it, my point though is about the way they (and all media) report things in such a sensationalist way, and they do, but you and I and kaz watch the news, but a huge number of this country never watch any news, so will probably only pick the sensationalist news from social media outlets. Kaz said people do know the real daily death numbers, but I bet most don't have a clue. I don't think I would unless @Healdplace had explained it properly.

As an example, my wife watches the news too, but when she commented on tonight's bbc "record" headline with genuine shock, I had to point out that the number was bollocks, and the highest actual daily number ever is 1073, and that was back in April. I'm sure I've pointed it out to her before as well, but she's less interested than I am, so it probably went in one ear and out of the other, and that is the problem, most will only remember today's "record" number headline, until the next "record" next Tuesday (hopefully not, and it's started to retreat).

I don't even think that some in government understand the numbers never mind ordinary people, and I'm damn sure the media don't.

 

[Marvin]

You said 500k per day in your first post claiming 50%, well today is less than half that, and falling, so you're being far too optimistic.

I didn't get the figure from thin air. I wanted to show that if we push the boundary we can get out of this a lot lot quicker than people think. Look at what is implied by the government's own target.

 

[Healdplace]

I think it is a bit insulting to assume people dont know it is not a true 24 hr death toll after all this time , it is a way of reporting used by gov and media a like

I dont really care if it is not exact to the day , every death is one death regardless

I don't assume 'people' don't know as anyone with reasonable grasp of things will and anyone posting regularly in here obviously will as they have acquainted themselves with the reality week by week.

But it is not insulting to think plenty of people do tie numbers reported today to events that happened in the past few days and we even had one or two doing not dissimilar things in here as unless you are really au fait with how this works you are not going to know the deaths today are from Christmas or before. They may well get that they are not literally today. But I suspect the 4 week lag will be far less understood.

I had a look on line and there were plenty of people saying this like - we lock down and deaths go up.. Let us just open up again and get on with life as locking down is not saving lives.

The truth is the exact opposite and imo it is the job of journalism to explain that in ways people will understand because if too many start to ease off thinking there is no point in being careful and the vaccine is coning anyway we will surrender the future as hostage to the past.

It is more important than ever that people understand that lockdown does work, is saving lives and with the vaccine is our best shot of regaining normality. But to do that they have to in a sense 'talk down' to those who are only familiar with the story as presented by the headlines not the story behind the headlines which right now is far more important.

 

[ganganvince]

I didn't get the figure from thin air. I wanted to show that if we push the boundary we can get out of this a lot lot quicker than people think. Look at what is implied by the government's own target.

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Target is to offer not to vacinate there will be 20% or so who will decline.

 

[cleavers]

I didn't get the figure from thin air. I wanted to show that if we push the boundary we can get out of this a lot lot quicker than people think. Look at what is implied by the government's own target.

Look at the actual numbers.....

....falling, though I guess like other data the last 2 are weekend data.

 

[Healdplace]

To be fair I was about to post the same as cleavers but stopped because tonight the bbc did go on to talk about the lag. Which is what I was asking.

Yes I noticed that. Glad the penny may be dropping.

But I would like someone to also point out that there is a link between deaths now and that risk many took at Christmas with loved ones because it was Christmas and that mattes more than what might happen in the future.

It is a hard kick up the backside that some out there need to have. So they might finally grasp that selfish actions cost lives and possibly the lives of those they love.

By far the best TV reporting we do see really kicks you in the gut and there are just enough people out there - not here or anywhere keeping themselves informed - who need that kick to try to make them see that any little thing they do could change the life of someone else for ever. And that someone could even be them.

The truly selfish will never get that. But I choose to think most people are not truly selfish just frustrated and fed up and of the belief that the young should just get on with it and leave the rest to decide for themselves.

The more the indiscrimination of this virus is made apparent and that - unlike the national lottery - it really could be you - or your loved one - the more likely we are to chart a rapid path out of this into a better tomorrow. Every selfish decision sets us back a few more moments.